Local Spending
As requested, an open topic regarding local spending of tax dollars and stimulus money.
Welcome to TaylorCountyTalk.com
A site for you...the citizens.
A site for you...the citizens.
Welcome to TaylorCountyTalk: Local Spending
Search The Web
Custom Search
Syndicate
Media Player
The Florida Department of Education was touting the thousands of teaching jbs saved across the state. I am not sure if federal stimulas dollars have saved any Taylor County teaching jobs. Given the negative opinion regarding Obama voiced through-out the community I would like to see what stimulas dollars are being invested in Taylor County. Also given the GOP slant of local media, I doubt that any good news about stimulas funding is going to be highlighted. Everyone likes to complain, but few individuals and/or businesses would refuse free money from the government, look at Buckeye!
Reply to this
If the school board can't manage the taxpayer money they currently are responsible for, what makes you think they can responsibly manage the stimulus dollars?
Reply to this
I did not indicate that I feel that the school board can manage anything. I simply stated what I saw on the news. I think we can all agree that neither the school board (current and past) or the school super (current and past) have trouble with their fiduciary responsibility to the citizens of Taylor County.
Reply to this
Where did you see a GOP slant to any media, local or otherwise? Oh so obama did not carry this county means that we should not receive any of the stimulus money? We are going to have to pay for this as well as our children for the rest of our lives. Yeah if I have to pay for it I think some of it needs to come to this little slice of heaven. The Gov has stuck there hand in my pocket, I think we should at least get a T shirt.
Reply to this
THEY MAKE ALL THESE CUTS TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TEACHING THE KIDS AD DEALING WITH THE KIDS BUT I SEE EVERY SINGLE DAY A CERTAIN SCHOOL BOARD EMPLOYEE DRIVING A SCHOOL BOARD TRUCK. WHY SHOULD JR DICE HAVE A SCHOOL BOARD VEHICLE THAT HE DRIVES HOME EVERY DAY. SCHOOL I OUT AND I HAVE STILL SEEN HIM DRIVING AROUND IN THIS VEHICLE. MAYBE THE CUTS SHOULD BE MADE OUT OF THE CLASS ROOMS AND NOT WITH THE ONES THAT ARE WORKING WITH OUR KIDS.
Reply to this
What credentials does an employeee have to obtain to get such a job driving a school district vehicle all of the county day and night. Is Mr. Dice qualified for the position he holds? What about the person I see on Sunday mornings, at the beach and all over the county in a school district truck? Not only is there an initial cost of purchasing a vehicle, but the ongoing cost of gas, maintenance and insurance. You have to wonder what ball the finance office is watching, they certainly do not appear to be looking at cutting operating costs! Bunch of losers wasting tax-payer dollars!
Reply to this
The sad part of all this hoop-la (TEA, Healthcare protest) is that locally controlled tax dollar spending is bankrupting this community. Citizens have the most control over what happens here not in Washington DC. National issues have effects but none to compare to the local wasteful spending and directing funds to projects which return little or no gains and profits to the citizens served.
That is why I am confused by the message of “taxed enough already” aimed at DC when the State of Florida has raised more taxes and imposed more new fees that affect the local citizen without any outcry. Healthcare for all is something given back to the citizens which is tangible. Most monies spent locally are based on a promise which almost never delivers the boastful public relations talking points of the negotiated deals.
The “Big” promise of jobs supplied through economic development funding rarely materializes. This is true, whether citizens believe it or not. No one is held accountable in business community for promises made in the deal, yet should the county/community fail to make good on the deal companies bring laws against the deal breaker. Ask Madison County how many times Nestles has filed suit against them.
The republican controlled Florida House and Senate have this year put in place expedited permit processes which make it easier for economic development dollars to fund projects and hide the deal from the public. Eliminating public discussions on developments of regional impact “DRI” is only one example. In other words, this eliminates the public response to projects no matter how good or bad in this county or the ones geographically located next door. At least the public/citizens are able to voice opinions on healthcare this was not the case in 45 million in funding for retooling the local factory for private gain.
.
Reply to this
While some of what you say is true However if you attended the tea party you would know that they have been just as hard on the gov and congress but like you said you do locally what you can...also FLORIDA does not have a state tax......I came from a state that did and also paid far more in property taxes, electric and gas for heating when I moved here I was shocked at how cheap everything was....live in NY or NJ or Cal they don't have tax ex for property owners either
Reply to this
Dice is only doing what he sees his supervisor (Bonnell) do. Bonnell has been seen driving the school district truck all over Taylor County after-hours, on weekends, transporting non-district personnel (family members)to and from school, lunch, etc. Bonnell has even been paid overtime for things like cleaning gutters, fixing steps, and plumbing. Excuse me, but it seems to me he should do those things during his normal working hours. When his supervisor was asked about his driving and the overtime paid by the district, all he said was it's his job and he is on call. Try this for an idea to save money: park the district vehicles at the bus shed or in front of the superintendent's office, if either employee is called out after hours, DRIVE YOUR OWN VEHICLE to pick up the district vehicle AND return it when the work is done. Gee, that might be a way to reduce expenses Dyal is always talking about. Any opinions?
Reply to this
Although spending of tax payer’s dollars are an astronomical amount at the local and economically depressed rural communities/counties level such as Hamilton, Madison, Lafayette, Suwannee, Dixie and Taylor the public outcry is to respond to national healthcare issues. What a hoot. The republicans in the Florida house and senate raise taxes and eat up the stimulus dollars on more of the same old worn out ideas which produce no relief to the citizens. Such as…
Let’s buy a rail road spur for a privately owned company. What the heck it’s only fifty million of our money. Next give forty five million for research and development dollars to the same private company. Let’s give the same company a tax exemption. The locals will vote for it even if the county uses public funding to promote a referendum, placement on the ballot twice (2004, 2006). Let’s team up with UF, FSU and God only knows who else to write “best management practices” for sustainability since the last house speaker showed us how well colleges and politicians work together.
(Ray Samson, http://www.northescambia.com/?p=7622.)
Great partnerships are formed this way by those who represent all of us. Let’s exempt accountability by hiding the deals in OTTED confidentially clause for twelve months with an extra twelve month through a simple filing process and trade secrets. The TCBOCC did that really well through the hard work of Jack Brown, Rick Breer, and a committee of lobbyist and industry leaders acting as official members of the visioning board. Our future was decided and we are now all signed up in the money for nothing deals.
I say one way to address this is to cut out the middle man. Why not just sign you pay check over each week to those always in line for a handout. Next let’s sign our future over, our children’s future and our grandchildren’s future over to the same company/politicians for a cheap labor source. Let’s give away our natural resources and not complain when our wells run dry or become contaminated by industrial pollution. Let’s just gladly drink the kool-aide and pay up because that’s what we do best.
Reply to this
Great points, it is a waste of taxpayer funds when others do it, when Boyd and local potentates do it..it is good business. Kind of like the milk mafia that bid rigged school milk prices years ago. These local rethuglicans and retardlicans take the cake.
Reply to this
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion/content/opinion/epaper/2009/08/19/a10a_crist_leadedit_0820.html
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/233/story/890143.html
Reply to this
http://www.eflorida.com/uploadedFiles/Why_Florida/FloridaBusinessFacts(1).pdf
How friendly is Florida with your tax money and business tax exempts.
Reply to this
http://vodpod.com/watch/1933425-congressman-allen-boyd-on-energy
http://vodpod.com/watch/1373048-allen-boyd-on-bushs-fiscal-legacy
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=116015598966
http://sharp.sefora.org/people/house/allen-boyd/#Energy
See the connect to what’s really going on
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr629RH/pdf/BILLS-111hr629RH.pdf
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr2211IH/pdf/BILLS-111hr2211IH.pdf
Ask your self why did Allen Boyd hold up a copy of the energy bill and announce I will not vote for this in Perry town hall meeting on health care. That looks like delivering (a message to the good old boys) support on the tax payer’s dime to those who hope to make mass fortunes on renewable energy. You can stop blowing smoke, politician the cat is out of the bag. Drive down us hwy 27, is that feeder lines on your dime?
Reply to this
Bond Issue in local republican rag, and you know it has to be (republican skewed) from the slightly slanted (hee hee) toward the right political cartoons published each week. But anyway back to the bond issue, does anyone remember the bond issue of 1920s? Well probably not, but it seems like I remember it was Roads and Bridges back in the day and
today it is Railroad spur. Hmm, did I say the county was condemned because of that little adventure in Roads and Bridges? Many other strange and curious occurrences in history have repeated patterns.
You know what they say,
Oh well, new dog, new trail, old dog, old trail. But this dog here mostly chases its tail.
Reply to this
http://globaljusticeecology.org/connections.php?ID=244
Reply to this
The county approved 2060 vision limits the job opportunities of the county and rural surrounding areas by placing all the eggs in one basket. There is just so many millions in funding to go around. The commissioners follow the leadership of special interest industry and local vendor/supplier companion companies such as equipment sales, logging companies, and bankers in all decision making matters. The Chamber of Commerce and assorted groups of local business professionals operate within the close knit circles of the government boards and decision makers of this community. This offers little more to the community than protection of this same group’s livelihood without consideration of others health, wealth, and well being.
This community fails to thrive after fifty years of this kind of economic development. However, this is all the commissioners/leadership has to offer. You can be poor or you can continue to be poisoned. What a wonderful, splendid, brilliant idea. You think these people are your friends, the sixth commissioner is your pal and they spend all their time looking out for you? This is beyond silly its down right delusional.
Are local decision makers being made fun for their long held ignorance behind their backs by their industry partners? The answer to this question is absolutely yes, because everybody else does.
Humpty Dumpty is being pushed and the king’s men will have scrambled egg for breakfast. But the ultimate joke/dirty deal is on the public, tax payer, and citizen. If you don’t believe me ask the politicians to tell you “what a good deal this is for you” now considering the well known facts. Who do you believe?
Reply to this
Well at least one local logging company got that inside track information for future profits.
http://www.fl-dof.com/calendar/cal_pdf/woody_biomass_workshop_Jan2009.pdf
Reply to this
By Senator Bullard—
SB 384—A bill to be entitled An act relating to the Biomass Energy
and Economic Development Program; providing definitions; directing
the Department of Environmental Protection, in consultation with the
Office of Tourism, Trade, and Economic Development, to establish a
program to fund biomass energy projects; requiring a competitive process
for the selection of projects funded by the program; providing criteria
for determining project eligibility and prioritizing funding of eligible
projects; requiring persons whose project is funded to provide written
reports; authorizing rulemaking by the department; providing an effective
date.
—was referred to the Committees on Communications and Public
Utilities; Environmental Preservation and Conservation; and General
Government Appropriations.
Reply to this
its interesting to note that the administrative budget for the school district was 1.6 million dollars while the transportation budget was 1.4 million seems like we have toomuch administration and not enough buses and why does the schoolboard need a personal budget of 354.000 to meet twicea month surely salaries and advertising isnt that much, we can lay of teachers andcut bus routes but still commit that much to administrative costs. i dont know about you but i think its time to replacesome board members and put some administrators back in the classroom
Reply to this
correction the schoolboard personal budget is 325.000 dollars my mistake
Reply to this
Good idea, but as we are putting those folks back in the classroom and giving an enema to the district office, let's all recall Dyal! He needs to stop blamng Oscar and take responsibility for the damage he is doing to the district.
Reply to this
I BELIEVE THAT ONE OF THE QUILIFICATIONS FOR BEING A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER OR THE SUPERINTENDENT IS THAT YOU HAVE A CHILD IN SCHOOL. I BELIEVE THIS WOULD MAKE THEM THINK A LITTLE BETTER ABOUT THE TREATMENT OF OUR KIDS AND NOT LIE TO PARENTS WHEN THEY CALL WITH CONCERNS.
Reply to this
Well it really is a double edge, while it may make a school board member think...boy that is an oxymoron...the past sins of school board member(s) who have had their children in the school system during their tenure as a school board member has been problematic at best.
What we need is elected folks who know their roles and responsibilities as board members and not get caught up in the politics, taking phone calls and a basic understanding of the sunshine law!
Reply to this
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/1013/130.html
http://www.floridacddreport.com/defaults.cfm
Reply to this
Look what I found. Your tax dollars at work. Whose's hand is in your wallet?
"I learned about this from the Maine Forest Service yesterday. What I was told is that the Government will pay half the cost of fuels delivered to qualified biomass burners for two years (and that will eventually be anybody I think) and will include woody biomass. I haven’t read the EIS yet but here is the reference to it in the Federal Register:" http://www.fsa.usda.gov/Internet/FSA_Federal_Notices/noa_bcap_8_10_2009.pdf.
Reply to this
60% of biofuel and biomass jobs will be in agriculture and forestry. Way to go commissioners the good jobs promotions of public relations spins are really just more of the same low paying without benefits employment opportunities. Shame on the leadership of Taylor County, special interests, state agencies, commissioners of Florida Cabinet, State of Florida Department heads and the governor who have repeatedly take advantage of the tax payer and citizens in jobs producing deals which fail to provide high-wage jobs with benefits packages such as healthcare insurance and retirement. How much state funding has been used to promote sanitized reports in support of under achieving projects?
Taxed Enough Already is really Taxed Enough Arbitrarily.
Reply to this
The funds earmarked as reported in todays outhouse wipe for the recreation complex concern me. I though in the beginning that the project was being funded with grant funds. It appears that a lot of local tax-payer funds is getting this complex up and running. A project that only some in our county use and make money off of....when is the bid (what it will be a no bid award most likely) for the concession stand going out....and how much of what the gal-pals take in is going back to the county?
Reply to this
I swear I love Taylor County and the State of Florida. Where else on earth do the people vote in clowns and then get all surprised when the circus breaks out.
Reply to this
Truer words were never spoken, and if you ask around you won't find one person that voted for the clowns, hmmmmm just how do they get in there then? VOTE FOR NO INCUMBENTS
Reply to this
County Commission Agenda 2007
Read the ethics Press release on these items before considering the outcome to county dollars spent. Looks like someone is making money but it is not the citizens. These fees were denied at the Commission on Ethics but that did not stop Taylor County from "commiting the act of covering thy ass"
THE BOARD TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF INVOICE, IN THE
AMOUNT OF $5,854.74, AS SUBMITTED BY BLUE & BYERS, IN
CONNECTION WITH ETHICS CASE DIANE WHITFIELD VS. CLAY
BETHEA.
21. THE BOARD TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF INVOICE, IN THE
AMOUNT OF $4,415.03, AS SUBMITTED BY BLUE & BYERS, IN
CONNECTION WITH ETHICS CASE REBECCA EDWARDS VS. BRYAN
BETHEA.
22. THE BOARD TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF INVOICE, IN THE
AMOUNT OF $4,242.91, AS SUBMITTED BY BLUE & BYERS, IN
CONNECTION WITH ETHICS CASE CAROLE TAITT VS. KEVIN
GUENTHNER.
Reply to this
I bet/hope this money grab has dried up with dufas Bethea out of office. It always makes me laugh when these retardlicans / rethuglicans who hate government and related spending unless they are getting paid! I bet Byers and Blue are right-wing nutjob tea-bag supporters who decry spending by local governmental entities. Doesn't Blue serve as a mediator/magistrate for the county planning board?
Reply to this
www.ethics.state.fl.us
Probable cause was found to believe that KEVIN GUENTHNER and BRYAN BETHEA, Taylor County Planning Board members, had voting conflicts when they voted on a measure which inured to the special private gain or loss of their employer or a parent organization or subsidiary of their employer. Probable cause also was found to believe that they participated in discussion of a measure which inured to the special private gain or loss of their employer or parent organization or subsidiary of their employer, without first disclosing their interest as required by law. However, because they each obtained the advice of counsel prior to the vote and they are no longer serving on the Board, the Commissioner will take no further action on these complaints.
Reply to this
Business leaders and government officials are frequently united in efforts to develop economically depressed communities, as was the case in Taylor County, Florida during the years of 2005 through 2007. Local business professionals and county board members found their actions scrutinized by constituents and citizens which resulted in discoveries of unethical practices. Citizens of Taylor County challenged land use amendment decisions made by elected and appointed board members. Many citizens of Taylor County believed these decisions were giving unfair advantage to industry’s interest above the best interest of the public.
Eight hundred residents of Taylor County requested the Board of Taylor County Commissioners allow a vote from the public on this issue. The commissioners refused the citizens request to participate in the decision making process multiple times. The Taylor County Board of County Commissioners issued a Resolution in support of industry and sent a letter to business leaders offering full support for the project of conflict. (E-Mail, 2005)
A county commissioner in Taylor County was advised to abstain from voting on a land use amendment in November 2006 after a complaint was filed with the Florida Commission on Ethics concerning his employer’s involvement as a seller of land in this project. According to a newspaper article reported in a local Taylor County Newspaper (Perry News Herald, 2006) this commissioner would abstain from the vote. The commissioner was employed by one of the companies involved in the sale of land which required a change in the county’s comprehensive land use plan to accommodate new industry in the county.
Reply to this
The Florida Commission on Ethics dismissed another complaint of nepotism against this commissioner for the appointment of his first cousin to the Planning Board. The Ethics commission “determined that because this commissioner sought the advice of counsel prior to the appointment of his cousin to the Planning Board, took not affirmative action to make the appointment, and abstained from the vote for the appointment, the public interest would not be served by future proceedings on the matter.” (Press Release, 2007)
An ethics complaint was filed against this Planning Board member as well. Although probable cause was found to believe this Planning Board member had failed to disclose his employment with the same company which employed his cousin the commissioner before voting on the land use amendment which inured special private gain or loss to their employer. Yet the Florida Commission on Ethics failed to take action due to “prior advice of counsel and those involved were no longer serving on the Board.” (Press Release, 2007) All toll three employees of this company involved as seller in land purchasing deal which required a land use amendment change were involved in discussion and/or voting on this issue. (Press Release, 2007)
The Mayor of the City of Perry, Taylor County, Florida was also involved in negotiations with industry agents (Perry News Herald, 2006) while her husband served as Chairperson of the Planning Board and her brother served as the Planning Board’s attorney. The Mayor’s husband’s vote was in favor of industry’s request to change land uses amendments. Citizens were not surprised and referred this type of decision making by city and county officials as “political incest”.
The appearance of unethical actions and behaviors caused the public to lose faith in city and county leadership board members which resulted in conflicts of interest issues between public trust and private gain of special interest. Taylor County citizens filed numerous ethic complaints concerning this matter with the Florida Commission on Ethics. The Taylor County Board of Commissioners, Perry City Council, and Planning Board members failed to resolve these issues and conflict of interest between industry, government and citizen resulted in the projects failure. Yet without the involvement of concerned citizens who would not take no for an answer when demanding open, honest, and ethical behavior in decision making processes special interest would have prevailed.
Reply to this
“determined that because this commissioner sought the advice of counsel prior to the appointment of his cousin to the Planning Board, took not affirmative action to make the appointment, and abstained from the vote for the appointment, the public interest would not be served by future proceedings on the matter.”
Now the real question we should all be asking is who is the attorney that gave that advice? and are the citizens paying for this type of cover thy ass advice.
Reply to this
An ethics complaint was filed against this Planning Board member as well. Although probable cause was found to believe this Planning Board member had failed to disclose his employment with the same company which employed his cousin the commissioner before voting on the land use amendment which inured special private gain or loss to their employer. Yet the Florida Commission on Ethics failed to take action due to “prior advice of counsel and those involved were no longer serving on the Board.” (Press Release, 2007) All toll three employees of this company involved as seller in land purchasing deal which required a land use amendment change were involved in discussion and/or voting on this issue. (Press Release, 2007)
The Mayor of the City of Perry, Taylor County, Florida was also involved in negotiations with industry agents (Perry News Herald, 2006) while her husband served as Chairperson of the Planning Board and her brother served as the Planning Board’s attorney. The Mayor’s husband vote was in favor of industry’s request to change land uses amendments. Citizens were not surprised and referred this type of decision making by city and county officials as “political incest”.
The appearance of unethical actions and behaviors caused the public to lose faith in city and county leadership board members which resulted in conflicts of interest issues between public trust and private gain of special interest. Taylor County citizens filed numerous ethic complaints concerning this matter with the Florida Commission on Ethics. The Taylor County Board of Commissioners, Perry City Council, and Planning Board members failed to resolve these issues and conflict of interest between industry, government and citizen resulted in the projects failure. Yet without the involvement of concerned citizens who would not take no for an answer when demanding open, honest, and ethical behavior in decision making processes special interest would have prevailed.
Reply to this
HeeHee
Reply to this
LOL! So true about folks who hate government and related spending until their name is on the check. The great thing is that when Crist/Sink came into office they mixed everything up! Also it is funny to see some of these local attorneys getting their shoes dirty begging for conflict cases, case they have been too good to take in the past. It is amazing when you peel back the layers of the local onion and see which local potentates and charlatans are profiting off of local government spending, T-ball, Soccer, cheerleading, football and other "community" activities.
Reply to this
LOL you want how much of our money? You can not fund your own projects, well lets talk. What's in it for us? That's right no one asked.
Reply to this
BM
I think you’ve scooped the “local news” (Wed. Paper) again with the biomass funding discussion. Cool, a different point of view from “local news” is giving thought to more research on topics of interest and how the state of Florida participates in madness. The state’s extreme taxing of tobacco and individuals for bad habits while funding industry smoke stacks to poison community and inhabitants with a tax exemption/incentive certainly sends mixed messages. Isn’t that taxing the poor again to give to the rich again?
This is why double standards are so repulsive and one-sided news “is what it is”. Someone should say out loud that sanitized reporting is the cleaned up truth. But then I just did.
Reply to this
Is the City of Perry prepared to face the uncertainty of salt water intrusion brought about by involvement in special interest projects? Is a desalination plant in Taylor County’s future? How about private property wells? What will locals do when wells are compromised by salt water? Long term exposure to hazardous chemical contaminates isn’t enough to stop the locals from supporting bad projects maybe the price tag for desalination plant will make all involved see the errors of poor decision makers.
Mineral rights documents inside the coal plant 4 volumes land use proposal has now turned into a rock pit mine and a fifty million dollar rail spur. Now I’d say that one was slipped in on ya’ll. The Econfina River was dry when? The Fenholloway River was dry when? Now common sense would tell you dilution can not be the solution when the rivers are dry and that pure unadulterated sewer water/industrial waste water is entering the aquifer in Taylor County through direct linear channels/swallow holes? Face the facts everyone in this county is being exposed to filth, industrial waste, and special interest poisoning of the public. No risk assessment has been done or containment of pollution from source. In fact the citizens are paying to poison themselves through grant funding and subsidies of this special interest. This latest new deal brought to you locally by the Taylor County Tallahassee combine of political appointees and political campaign contributions to elected officials through associations dollars that basically hide donors from public view. Poor defenseless Taylor County, the politicians have been ripped ya’ll off again. Better get a good paying job because water is expensive and property values are way down.
http://www.tfn.net/Springs/DrySprFenholloway.htm
Have you ever seen a swallow hole? Here it is.
Reply to this
What a hoot. Where do y'all get these folks?
Reply to this
You are joking right?
Reply to this
How does this happen and everyone goes about behaving as if it is not happening. Deaf, dumb and blind?
Reply to this
Community Budget Issue Requests - Tracking Id #1529
Requester: Emily Ketring, Mayor Organization: City of Perry
Project Title: Perry Wastewater Facilities Plan Date Submitted 1/3/2008 2:07:13 PM
Sponsors: Dean
Perry Wastewater Facilities Plan
Where does this connect? Buckeye
Now tell me again who represents you? 750,000 of tax payer dollars are being spent to promote whose bottom line. Get in line and hand over your pay check. Taxes and fees are up and you pay. But does anyone know who receives?
Reply to this
I don't have knowledge about this particular project, but I would ask this... What local business pays the most in taxes, and provides the most number of direct and indirect jobs in Taylor County?
Reply to this
Citizen
The rate of return on tax paid and services received by Buckeye and affiliates (large land holder/supply chain) are better than any return on investment. This industry is subsidized by your/our tax dollars to the tune of millions.
Jobs supplied? You are joking, right? 60% of the jobs touted (new projects, biofuel/biomass) are in agriculture/forestry historically known for low wages and non benefits. Now who is being taken advantage of since Buckeye downsized those good jobs (in plant) by 750, while receiving tax subsidies? Get real the cost is more than the benefit. Do the math. Tax exempt is not tax paid.
This raises residential tax payer rates to supply basic services in their neighborhoods and community or else these services are never supplied to ordinary citizens. An example would be emergency services at the beaches and south end of county. The sixth commissioner knows this, that is why the face is hidden from the light.
Reply to this
How much does Buckeye pay per year in property taxes?
Reply to this
Ask the P.A. Property appraiser
Why do you think the PA office info isn't on line? Also ask about the mineral tax. Just ask.
Reply to this
Why the hush-hush? If you have the information, just post it.
As for the office's online presence... It's well-known that the prior appraiser wasn't exactly on the cutting edge of technology. The office has years of catching up to do. You seem to be implying that there's some sort of conspiracy to hide information, but I see no evidence of that.
Reply to this
The reason the property taxes are not online is because the previous administratuion under Eldon Sadler was NOT allowed to do so. His idiotic remarks about a terrorist looking up where you live is the main reason he didn't put up a website.. The other reason he was probably too busy booking attendances at peoples funerals and he didn t have the time to invest in putting up a website. It has absolutly NOTHING to do with how much property taxes Buckeye pays!!
Reply to this
Welcome back T Mac! It's been awhile; glad to have you back.
Reply to this
Does every thing have to be handed to you? Are you lazy or do you know that hiding is what the local controllers do best? If you have an interest in the topic look for it or ignore it. I know the answers to the hard questions.
Reply to this
You didn't answer my question. Why the cloak-and-dagger routine?
And if anyone can call or stop by the courthouse and get the information you're talking about, no one is "hiding" anything.
Reply to this
Please except my apology for offending you with my comments. The answer is this, please call and ask about the mineral tax collected by county. It should be report annually and may be of interest. The four volumes of hard copy paper as seen at high school meeting on coal plant is where I first saw information described. Next, it is my belief that having the PA info on line would give a clear picture of how much land holdings in Taylor County are held under farming tax assessments. Taylor County’s privately held/residential property is a very small amount in comparison to tree farm properties.
Taylor county has lost/unable to take advantage of approximately 30 million dollars in housing grant funding as a result of extreme property value due to limited lands available. Once again the 2060 visioning is another opportunity to hold large acreages of land through small tax payments required. In other words if the tax were not so low the large land holder could not afford to hold on to these assets. This is an advantage to the large land holder and a disadvantage to the residential property owners due to the tax rate and services rendered. Does this answer your question?
Now as to your cloak and dagger thing, who is failing to disclose this information? My question to you is this, are you aware of mineral tax received by county and tree farm/agriculture tax rates to large land holder or the source of lost funding opportunities?
Reply to this
http://jacksonville.com/news/florida/2009-09-27/story/e_mails_to_cost_venice_750_000_in_sunshine_lawsuit
Reply to this
Well in the same line as mineral taxes, does anyone know how much the county takes in with their recycling program, at the roll off sites? I worked with a non-profit once that recycled glass, and cardboard, they got 600.00 a container for glass, and 400.00 for cardboard. They have the recycling containers at each roll off site, but I've never seen the income for this listed anywhere.
Reply to this
It is most likely going into a slush fund of sort, I would hope they reinvest in equipment to expand recycling.
Reply to this
These are my questions:
Is it true that Madison County receives the profits for recycling from Taylor county b/c that’s where the landfill site is. Taylor County can no longer have a land fill b/c of water issues.
Is it not true that Taylor County pays to deliver Dixie County’s trash to Madison County b/c of closure of Taylor County landfills while having a contract with Dixie County to except trash?
Reply to this
http://www.chipleybugle.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2309:bronson-sides-with-polluters&catid=9:editorials&Itemid=36
Reply to this
Now that's pork
Reply to this
It is always very telling when you read the audits of the local governmental entities and school board. It is always an eye opener. It is also funny that some folks "pork" is others savior. People typicallly call it pork when they are not being enriched by the "pork" I always laugh when our legislative delegation sends out mailers about all the "pork" they got for their district the past legislative session. Also locally, the rethuglicans and retardlicans are always anti-government, unless they are getting a check, their spouses or cronys. It reaally amounts to whose ox is getting gorded. LOL!!!
Reply to this
Pig (gluttony?) or pork now that is the question.
Reply to this
It is usually pork or who is getting porked (the tax payers). True comment about the rethuglicans in Washington, Tallahassee and in our county. If they or their cronys are getting the pork it is ok, think of Dubya and Hallibuton/Blackwater, think companies riding the privateization train of Jeb, and locally when "board" members sell to the entity they serve on, appointed spouses getting contracts and others with their head in the tax-payer supported feed trough.
Reply to this
Suey
Reply to this
You know, I never knew there were so many intellegent people who know it all in this county. It seems that all the political offices should be replaced with these bloggers, but oh yeah, they are to cowardly to show their names so noone would know who to vote for.
Reply to this
That's funny, not intelligent, but funny. Why don't you want any discussion of the elections, afraid something might come out, that would complicate someones run for re-election, that's the only reason I see for a comment like that. 24 hour news, and blogs like this one, have ruined many an incumbents plans.
Reply to this
No what's funny is how people just have a negative opinion about everything, this is why the world is the way it is, negative, negative, negative, no positives. just a second opinion.
Reply to this
If the shoe fits you have to wear it. When folks are elected and do not live up to the responsibilities of their office...they should be called out about the errors of their ways. You cannot expect the bought and paid for media in this county (Perry Newspapers) to print the truth or the Paul Harvey version. We have some corrupt self-serving politicians in this county, like a lot of places. The biggest problem is the voters, the few who actually vote-see apathy, keep electing these folks with a little help from some folks in the courthouse. Heck you cannot find anyone who voted for Obama, but he won. Go figure.
Reply to this
What a bunch of dumba$$ remarks..Retardiclanns and rethuglicans with the idiot we have in office. Bunch of idiots on here expressing their views
Reply to this
randon as usual nothing has changed It's not about how much tax is paid it's about avoidance of taxes.
Reply to this
Poor Taylor County residents are never told about the “fat welfare baby” their tax dollars support every time. Millions spent to increase the support of the “fat welfare baby” known as pulp and paper. The poor people of Taylor County have the local commissioners, mayor, and state representative and senator and US Congressional delegation trading off any hope of replacing poverty with prosperity through really bad deal making with special interest industry. This did not work for the first fifty years so sign us up again for another fifty years and whine that others carp on how stupid we all are. You have got to be joking, right? Duh.
“This is stupid, and it must come from a long line of stupid, cause nothing gets that stupid in one generation” this is the explanation I was given for this repeat episode of brainless actions(fifty year deal with the fat welfare baby) taken by local and state politicians to give jobs and improve our children’s future. This fat baby will never achieve self-sufficiency (hell it’s 50+ now and baby can not stand alone or walk by it’s self) as long as it gets the big fat welfare checks(County, State, and Federal dollars) there are no incentives to improve. As long as we carry this fat baby on our backs it will never learn to walk and we are forced to live with the tyranny of the weak and helpless.
One might think the politicians would show some sign of remorse for their actions or show just a little respect for the common man/woman. Those same old career politicians who continue year after year to take advantage of not only the citizen’s hard earned tax dollars but their hopes of a better tomorrow for their children, while auctioning off resources to secure our future to the highest bidder for campaign contributions/support.
Government for the people, by the people brought to you by the likes of Boyd, Bembry, Crist, Dean, Lawson, TCBoCC, and PCC, now tell me which one of these is on the common people’s side. Now whose responsibility is this yours or theirs?
As long as tax dollars, exemptions by laws, and consideration for special interest are dolled out year after year there is nothing left for the citizens or the children. Your children’s future is compromised and eliminated. There is no hope of life ever getting any better as long as the till is tipped in favor of the few. Now the question is this, are you, the parents/tax payers going to stand up and put up or go along and shut up. I think we already know the answer to this question.
The Florida Legislators are meeting this week in “special session” to do what? High speed rail? Springs protection? Here we go again. Check out the piles of pipe east of town? Was the pipe purchase part of the funding packages (tax payer subsidy) and was the jobs produced for the police escort to deliver them to Taylor County?
Reply to this
By Senator Bennett—
SB 414—A bill to be entitled An act relating to energy; creating s.
288.10894, F.S.; creating the Florida Alternative Energy Center; providing
legislative findings; providing definitions; requiring that the center
comply with public-meetings and public-records laws; providing for the
organization, purpose, and duties of the center; providing for the membership
of the board of directors of the center; requiring the disclosure
of financial interests by board members; requiring an annual report;
creating s. 288.10895, F.S.; creating the Alternative Energy Incentive
Program for the purpose of encouraging economic development and research;
providing definitions; providing for the program to be operated
by the Florida Alternative Energy Center; providing the qualification
criteria for a business to receive an award under the program; providing
a grant-application process and requirements for such application; providing
for an evaluation and award process; requiring that the center
validate the performance of projects funded under the program; providing
an effective date.
—was referred to the Committees on Communications and Public
Utilities; Environmental Preservation and Conservation; Commerce;
and Transportation and Economic Development Appropriations.
By Senator Bennett—
SB 416—A bill to be entitled An act relating to trust funds; creating
the Florida Alternative Energy Center Trust Fund; providing for sources
of funds and purposes; requiring funds to remain in the trust fund at the
end of each fiscal year; providing for future review and termination or
re-creation of the fund; providing a contingent effective date.
—was referred to the Committees on Communications and Public
Utilities; Environmental Preservation and Conservation; Commerce;
and Transportation and Economic Development Appropriations.
By Senator Bennett—
SB 418—A bill to be entitled An act relating to public records and
meetings; creating an exemption from public-records and publicmeetings
requirements for certain information held by the Florida Alternative
Energy Center; exempting specified information relating to the
recruitment of a business to locate in Florida and proprietary business
information from public-records requirements; exempting the identity of
donors or potential donors from public-records requirements; creating
an exemption from disclosure for information that is confidential while
in the possession of the person providing it; creating an exemption from
public-meetings requirements for meetings of the governing board of
directors of the Florida Alternative Energy Center at which confidential
records are presented or discussed; authorizing access to exempt or
confidential information under specified circumstances; providing a penalty;
providing for future legislative review and repeal under the Open
Government Sunset Review Act; providing a statement of public necessity;
providing a contingent effective
Reply to this
http://www.floridaenergy.ufl.edu/wp-content/uploads/clean-energy-grant-draft.pdf
Reply to this
What is this approx one fourth of Taylor county residents live in poverty.
http://edr.state.fl.us/county%20profiles/taylor.pdf
Reply to this
au pays des aveugles les borgnes sont rois.
Reply to this
http://www.ericzamora.com/conservation/life-on-the-edge/aerial-tour.html
Reply to this
Stop the insanity. Vote them all out and tell the newly elected we will be right back at end of term to vote them out as well. It's time we had someone on our side.
Reply to this
"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws."
- Plato
Reply to this
The republican controlled Florida House and Senate along with the governor and cabinet members i.e. Agriculture have raised taxes and fees on Florida citizens to the tune of 2.2 billion dollars all the while dulling out funding i.e. 18.3 million and incentives to companies of special interest i.e. biofuels and biomass. This a fine example of the Taylor County Tallahassee combine fleecing the tax payer and using these hard earned tax dollars to support wasteful projects. This is shameful.
http://www.eroei.com/articles/2007-articles/the-cellulosic-ethanol-delusion/
Reply to this
That is the retardlicans we know and love! LOL! I find it amazing that some local anti government / anti tax "conservatives" in Taylor County pay very little or nothing in income taxes, based on their employment or lack of employment and very little in property taxes and late paying these taxes if the tax roll info on the website is correct. Yes we have a bunch of walmart retardlicans around here. These same folks will also pat our legislative delegation on the back for every earmark and "pork" dollar they bring to the county while admonishing everyone else who does the same. It is a fickle politician(s) we have in Taylor County, Tallahassee snd Washington DC.
Reply to this