New Head Coach & The 2009 TCHS Varsity Football Season
Topic request by T Mac:
I would like to start a thread concerning the new football coach! I think the community should be able to give kudos to a first year coach who is 5-2 in his first season.
I want to say that the boys seem to be happier under the new coach, more so than the previous coach we had, what was his name.
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I would say so. it is amazing they have won more games in the last 6 weeks than they won the first two years the previous coach was in position. Praise to the new coach !!
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That is right, but I cannot remember the old coaches name.
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Is there any chance you'd be willing to use a different name when you post? I've been posting here under the name "Taylor County Citizen" for a very long time, and don't want people to confuse the two of us...
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No I like Taylor County Citizen, mby using this name, it will give the compliners something to complain about
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So, you *want* people to confuse the two of us?
I'll leave this in the hands of the board moderator.
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I hope/wish that in the future that everyone will be as enthusiastic about education and the preparation of school kids for the world of work and jobs for these kids!
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Great point, kids need to know how to read. I admired Suwannee County school system, but saw last week tha they have the worst/best dropout rate in the State of Florida....they always have good football games though! Pity this region values football over academics and the future of our communities. It is not fair that the community colleges have to provide the 13th and 14th grades when school districts cannot/will not do their job! These kids look great in the annuals and newspaper ads@! LOL!!!
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Duh, that is what a community college is for, the next two grades
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If your boy can not read that is because you and he are lazy. Him for NOT applying himself and you for NOT noticing. In today's school system the children have more than ample help than a student did 20-25 years ago. As far as their great football games they like Taylor County have 20 years. Just like your son shows how much you have paid attention.
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Correction in sentence...As far as their great football games they(Suwannee) like Taylor County have not been competitive for 15 years. Just like your son shows how much you have paid attention.
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"Duh, that is what a community college is for, the next two grades", I do not think so, high school is a secondary education provider, community colleges are a post-secondary education provider. I think that the blogger was making the point that kids are getting to community colleges and cannot read and/or pass an FCAT. It is not the community college's role to teach kids that just graduated high school how to read read, compute and other basic education skills they should have attained in 12 years of schooling at the local school districts. From what I understand is that the community colleges spend a lot of valuable time providing remedial teaching to unprepared students.....maybe because school districts spend more resources on extra-curricular activies and less on acutally educating and preparing students for the future. Locally, it still is bass-ackwards to focus on football and not on education. Education used to be first, we have high unemployment and our kids should be prepared to go out into the world with the ability to enter the workforce (read), and/or enter post-secondary training. Heck even classes at the vo-tech and corrections classes require a level of skills academically to enter the program. Any job requires the ability to read and understand and the ability to learn. Maybe new businesses do not want to come to trailer county because the education and skill level of the current and future workforce is not up to par with other areas.
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I graduated from Taylor County and did just fine.. The problem is you have the want to's and the I do not care if I do's in this town ..The ones who want to read, write, and do arithmetic do and still play sports. Then you have the ones who are just plain lazy. Grow up you idiots and realize if one wants an education the opportunity is there if you grasp it. I played sports too. Quit your whining about the dumba$$es and realize that education begins at home. Tell mom and dad to quit drinking their beer and concentrate on properly raising their kids. My dad was a single dad and sacrificed so I could learn.
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KUDOS TO YOU AND YOUR DAD. YOU ARE CORRECT, SOME OF THE PARENTS AROUND HERE ARE NOT SUITABLE TO BE PET OWNERS, MUSCH LESS SHAPING THE MINDS OF CHILDREN. AND SOME OF THESE FOOLS ARE ACTUALLY HOME SCHOOLING CHILDREN AND ATTEMPTING TO START SCHOOLS BASED IN CHURCHES. YOU COULD WRITE A REPORT - CASE STUDY ON WHAT NOT TO DO AND HOW TO LIMIT A CHILD'S POTENTIAL IF YOU LOOK AROUND AND SEE THESE PARENTS WHO DO NOT VALUE AN EDUCATION AND LET THEIR CHILDREN RUN HOG-WILD. A LOT OF THESE FOLKS WERE NOT INDIVIDUALS WHO VALUED AN EDUCATION WHEN THEY WERE GROWING UP. IF IT WAS NOT FOR SUCH THINGS AS THE PRISON, MOST WOULD ONLY ASPIRE TO PUMP GAS FOR A LIVING. YES HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY WE VALUE A LOT OF THINGS MORE THAN EDUCATION AND JOBS......SUCH AS SPORTS, WHAT KIND OF CAR YOU DRIVE, TANNING, GOLD JEWELRY, HOW IMPORTANT YOU CAN APPEAR, $$$$$$, AND OTHER THING THAT MAKE SOME FOLKS FEEL SUPERIOR TO OTHERS. BY GOD WE HAVE A BUNCH OF FOREST GUMPS AND JOE THE PLUMBERS HERE! lol!!!!!
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These kids can read can you say the same about public school. A local child took the bronze medal for state wide fcat reading score. A teacher from Perry taught the child whose parents and grandparents are from perry. The reward/prize went to another school district without the blame game going on. The taylor county school system has/is a failing system. The graduates are the proof. Somebody had to step in and take charge or else live with the failures so many are so proud of in Perry. When will the powers that be listen to the criticism and use the information as a tool to improve the system rather than blaming others?
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How dare you compare any of these people to a man like Forrest Gump.
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You stated the key in your message--your dad sacrificed so you could learn. This shows that he recognized the value of an education for you. Way too many kids in Taylor County don't have that advantage, though, and the schools are stuck with trying to undo years of bad parenting.
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Parenting starts at home. If you want a child to learn begin teaching them when they are young. Do not make a teacher raise your child.
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As a parent of one of the boys on the team, I would like to congradulate the new head coach for coming in a starting the program back up, to winning standards. He has instilled a winning mentality to these kids, and a positive influence on them. By the way the old coaches name was Price Harris. This blog was about the football team and their success, not the academics of the school, it was supposed to a positive spin on things, but as usuall the bloggers have had to complain, bitch and moan, same as usual, you all ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
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I thought this topic was about giving the head coach compliments on a good job.Good job coach.Lets get more kids back in sports instead of smoking dope and mud bogging!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And more on reading, writing and arithmatic as well! The mud boggers come to town with a twenty dollar bill and one shirt and do not change either on while trashing our community. Also the mud bog has become a place for underage drinking, illegal drug use and a free-for-all sexfest for many youth in this community. So much for a family atmosphere.
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Moderator- if something is posted off topic can you move it to a new thread or delete it? It's getting ridiculous when every topic is turned into another direction within a few post.
To the original poster- Thank you for actually stating something positive about Taylor County, it's ashame that people try to turn everything into a negative.
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Yes I can, but I would like to ask the posters to help a little if you can. When I review the day's posts, I am looking though the content and not necessarily the topic it was posted under. If you or anyone else finds a post off topic or out of line please bring it to my attention. All you really need to do is reply to the post and just say 'off-topic' or 'out of line' and I will take a look at it and take necessary action. When I am reviewing from now on, I will try and look at the whole picture, but everyone's help would be greatly appreciated, as I do miss things. This site is for all of you and you can help keep it straight.
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Ya’ll tickle me. Topic control and positive comments.
As if, that will make it all better. Sorry silly, it is what it is and some of us refuse to participate in mass psychosis and delusion.
Trust me Taylor County just ain’t that happy.
I suggest those who think themselves better suited to make decisions for us all, consider this idea for improving the community.
Remove your hands from over your ears. If you hear something that makes you wish to place your hands back over your ears, sit on your hands. Next, if for any reason you wish to remove your hands from under your fanny, place your hands over your mouth.
If you do this, then maybe, just maybe, you will be able to understand what the message is that you keep refusing to hear. It is possible the message and the messenger is not the problem, the problem is simply that the listener is deliberately deaf.
Oh and by the way, this works for being deliberately blind as well.
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I like the way you talk. They tried these things at the nervous hospital I was in. They did not work. Maybe you should pull you head out of your....well you know. What I hear is that we have put sports ahead of fiduciary responsibility of the school district and the education of our kids, created false elitism and spending resources like a drunken sailer at a whorehouse. Kudos to the team for winning games, kudos to all of the volunteers that make it happen-there are many, and kudos to the tax-payers for tolerating the mis-management of school district finances. Oooh that burns doesn't it!
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What burns is when someone begins a thread on something positive then some anal-retentive person has to come along and attempt to suck the life out of it. Those boys are first time since 1997 I see smiles on those kids faces.
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What burns is when someone begins a thread on something positivehappening in Taylor County then some anal-retentive person has to come along and attempt to suck the life out of it. Those boys are first time since 1997 I see smiles on those kids faces.
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With the time, effort, money and resources invested in the coach and program by the district this year, I think the tax-payer needs to be thanked! Dyal and company invested efforts to re-establish the program at a time when the district could have used more attention to all things financial, so thank the districts staff and students for giving up resources and much needed attention. Finally, thank the district financial office staff for the shell game they are playing. Manual checks, booster reimbursements....it just gets better.
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What about those JV players? Undefeated! Go Bulldogs!
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Yes the JV did very well this year! The next 2-3 years for Taylor County should be pretty good as well! Congrats to those youngsters who sacrificed and put in the hard work! It has paid off! Keep it up; the sky's the limit!
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Student moral and attitude is something that is hard to put a price tag on. I will say that my impression this year is that student have something to be proud of. That emotion reflects in the classroom as well as the community.
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Taylor County Bulldogs went into hostile territory last night, the refs were against them and the other team was a very good team. Coach Boggs had his guys ready and it showed. Hampered with their starting quarterback out, William Wentworth performed like a seasoned pro. Tony Southerland took over the kicking duties for Crowley as he lay in the hospital recovering from staff infection in his arm. The DOGs showed poise and their strength of their defense outshined the Union County Tigers. The offense led by Wentworth did what it took to get er done. For the first time in many years the Dogs have a winning season in the bag, they are undefeated in District with only two more district games left they sit atop the standings since Florida High lost last night as well. You can see the difference in the players and fans as Boggs has turned the program around in his first year. He came in and did the things it took to get the Bulldog feeling going again, by this the school atmosphere is outstanding and the community support is gaining momentium. The positive feeling of everyone cannot be measured in dollars, as some want to do. Kudos to Boggs and his staff along with the players, cheerleaders, band and the school as a whole. Only one thing to say GO BULLDOGS!
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WOW!! Finally wI see Taylor County playing the football we all know it can!! Congrats to the new coach, his staff and players!! I would like to challenge everyone to come out next weekend, travel and watch your team play! I plan on making the trek from Gainesville!! See you there!!
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Big game in Ft. White this Friday, everyone should come and support the dogs.
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It is nice to see that all of the resources of time, money and hiring of the coach and related cronys has paid off. Maybe Dyal and company should take this approach to solving other problems with the district. Just think what could be accomplished academically and with the finances of the district if as much effort was made toeard these issues.
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Good point, but if you go to the Board meetings you would see the sffort made. Also a profitable sports program will pay for the sports therefore saving the district money there, and I believe if you check the coach was paid less than the previous coach and using less asst. coaches. Some things need to be looked into, before complaing, but business as usual for some bloggers---huh!---
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What about the "manual checks" that seem to be off the books. I feel you would need to look at all of the "costs" before touting "saving the district money". No one is complaining, I believe the blogger just stated that the same needs to be done for all areas of the school district. As with the last coach, I wonder what is being paid under the table.
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No check can be off the books. That's the whole point of writing checks. Hello?
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Check it out, manual checks do not appear on the expenditure list given to the school board and are out of the prying eyes of the public. Dyal and Vickie has some 'splaining to do to the taxpayers.
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The school board doesn't examine every check written by the district or the individual schools. They couldn't possibly keep up with that. However, regular audits are performed by the state, and those audits examine the books in more detail.
I don't believe the district is using its money to pay the coaches beyond their regular salaries. I do, however, suspect that the football boosters may be supplementing those salaries with either additional money or various favors (e.g., free/discounted goods or services). I still find it distasteful that members of the boosters were on the selection committee when the district hired the new coaches; I'm not aware of any other situation in which the district consulted with the public before filling a position.
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Who cares how much the boosters (if they do) subsidize the coaches pay ? It is their money. People always have to find a reason to complain or gripe when something good happens within the community. Remember, as the team is successful the more money which comes in the gate. Just once why can you people not just speak up and say Good Job!! Great decision!! Way to go Coach!!
Nope, somewhere along the line something crawled up your butt and died.
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The boosters are affiliated with the school district,and I believe it's against the law for them to supplement coaches' incomes. So if that's happening, it's a problem.
I'm not opposed to football. I love it. I'm glad the Bulldogs are doing well. I'm glad morale and school spirit are up. Honestly.
But in the end, the number of TCHS students who make a living off of football is likely to be very, very small. Academics are what are truly important, and Taylor County has some struggling schools. I'd love to see the community get as excited about academics as they do about football. How about the wealthier folks around here forming an *academic* booster club? Maybe they could recruit a few PhDs to come teach science and math at TCHS--subject areas that will prepare kids to compete globally in a 21st century knowledge-based economy.
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Sorry but there is NO law against how the Boosters spend their money. Many Booster clubs across the state supplement many coaches incomes by paying them additional Salary. Two which come to mind who compete competively every year is Madison County and Trinity Catholic in Ocala.
If you would like form such a club how about stepping up and making it so. For many years before he relocated Mike Musgrove pushed the Brain Brawl team and supported it. I am sure Don Lincoln would run a FREE story in the community service section of our local paper and let's see how many volunteers you get!
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I don't know if it's a law or an FHSAA rule or what, but http://www.sportspower.com/football/news/view/36347 states that "Florida coaches are not allowed to receive additional money from school boosters." I've read that elsewhere, too. Is it inaccurate?
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Have you been to the school lately, morale, school spirit among the students is at all time high, you cannot put a price tag on what this new coach has done, students are just going nuts with support for the team. It has been a long tiome since I have seen this kind of student support. Go Dawgs.
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I think that's awesome. It would be even more awesome if morale and school spirit could be up due to higher FCAT scores and lower dropout rates. I sincerely hope the excitement over football will affect academics in a positive way.
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The football teams have done very well, they do seem to have boosted moral throughout the School System, and seem to be getting support from the citizens also. Will this carry over, after football season, who knows? But I have decided to keep my News Papers with the lists of the players, I want to see how many have their names and pictures are in the Graduation Edition of our local paper, I hope all of them. Because really when it comes down to it, Graduation should be the main goal, right? Again I say the teams have done very well this year, and I for one am proud of them. I don't know how much it has cost, don't know if some of what has been written on this blog is true, about hand written checks ect. But the real pride should be when these players walk the aisle with cap and gown on, knowing they are going on with their education, or have great jobs awaiting them. Please adults try to remember, once your out of High School, if you aren't going to the pro's, or on to college, the only people that care about your High School Football exploits are your family, friends, and the guys that played with you.
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To pretend some ingénues person(s) suddenly “fixed” another failed program is yet another false positive result. Before the back patting begins let’s explore the facts. If there is a pertinent question here the answer would be “outreach”.
I do not know who initiated the course of action student football players took in order to find community support for the present program. I would assume the coach or person(s) managing the overall athlete’s football school program. The “team” reached out to the community/neighborhoods and said (of course, I paraphrase here, from a letter) “this is an invitation to join us, to help us, to support us as we play ball” and the community said yes we will. This was a formula for success and not a silver bullet or corrective action on the part of school administration. The wins, support, and accomplishments belong to all individuals included, coaches, players, parents, and fans.
If you did not receive a letter requesting support from individual athletes it could be that you do not know that you too can support the local team through contributions at many levels i.e. purchases tickets to games, become a Taylor County Bulldogs fan and sit in the stands, ask how to best support the team.
The team is doing a good job and I measure this by my knowledge of, isn’t JV undefeated and TCHS wins out over LBHS. I am not a sports person.
So please bloggers, do not even attempt to steal our Team’s (our children’s) thunder by attributing credit based on invalid assumptions. I say get out of the picture camera hogs and let the team take a bow.
Go Bulldogs, Go TCHS
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You are so right u know, thanks for the words.....
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Does anyone know about a student being "caught" with a firearm in a car at TCHS? I wonder if the student is a "good kid" / potentate's child and will get the same as others who violate the disipline matrix.
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Was not a gun but a grenade launcher.....Can you keep a secer? BBBWWWWAAAHHHAAAHHHAAA(evil potentate laugh)
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They lost, lol! Let's get back to education of our kids!
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Hey they lost, laugh al;l you want, we (The Bulldogs) played our heart out, the town and the schools were there to watch, where were you? It's people like you who cause the demise of all with your lol, on everything. The schools are better, education wise and spirit wise, the town is better, but you must not be. Maybe it's because you were a side liner not a player. Huh What the truth speaks out, only a complainer not a winner.....
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I was there and I saw our Bulldogs play their hearts out. Don't let the negative post on here bother you. Those poor souls have no life and this is their only enjoyment. Let them post so they can feel "the power". And yes its ok to pray for them......GO BULLDOGS"......State Champions 1997 and 2009.......play your hearts out young men!
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I was at the game night and from the looks in the stands so was most of Perry... The guys played there hearts out, that was one of the greatest defensive played games in varsity football that i have seen in a long time at the high school level... the defenses from both teams played a hell of a game...
Coach Boggs, thank you for coming in and changing something that has been needing change in Taylor County for a long time and thats home town spirit, there were students in the stands last night that did not sit down once during the whole game (i even think they were shaking those milk jugs during the half time show lol)... if u were fortunate enough to have gone to the game last night, you saw something special on the football field and in the stands...
Not to mention the TCHS JV football team went undefeated this year... think about the years to come...
The new club at the high school, The Spirit Club did a great job last night, that was the loudest that dorsett stadium has been since 2005's fort white game... Thanks to Jodie Price, Susan Braswell for helping put this club together....
And another thanks to Debra Mash and Janet Johnstono for helping put together all those milk jugs together...
Lets take a minute and think about some of the good that is in Perry,
Congrats to the Taylor County Football Team and to Coach Shane Boggs...
Go Dawgs
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The Bulldogs definitely played well--it was a great game, and has been a great season.
On another positive note, I see from the school district's website that TCHS is now offering advanced placement Chemistry for the first time.
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I play football and the only reason I am in school is to play, I have to maintain a certain grade point average to play, and I do that and then some. I am not saying my grades are just to play football, but I could be welding now and make some money. I choose to keep my grades and be able to play ball. There is a lot of guy's who would be out of school if not for football and the fine job Coach has done for us, he is not only a coach but also a Father figure to some of us. Get off his case and the supers case for hiring him, if not for them, a few of us might not be in school today.
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There's nothing wrong with playing football, of course. Even better is balancing it with academics; Chris Ponder is an MBA candidate, and Myron Rolle is a Rhodes Scholar.
My questions to you, as a student, would be these... Why don't you value education more? Why is football the only thing keeping some students in school? Why not the desire to better yourselves and become more knowledgeable?
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Ido value academics, but football may be my only way to go to college, my parents cannot afford to pay my way to school even with academic scholarsips, there is just to many cost. I love football and I said, I had to maintain a certian grade point average to do so, but many of my teammates do not have a chance to play at the higher level so by playing football has kept them in school, my point is without football some of my teammates and myself would not be in school, so it just shows that sports is important to the growth of the school population..
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This is so sad.
http://content.usatoday.com/news/nation/environment/smokestack/school/22404
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What the heck has a dumb post like this have to do with the football team.
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I doubt that there are any players in our county performing at the level to get schlarships to play football at any of the major state universities. They may be able to get a scholarship at a small liberal arts college, but most likely lack the academic skills to graduate. That folks is what we get for focusing on football and not on education. Why not tke the great spirit from Friday night and use it to improve things all across the distirct. I find it funny that some of the comments made are from "student(s)" in their fifth year as a full-time student at a two-year community college. LOL!!!!!
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Finally we see something positive happen in Taylor County and there always have to be detractors. We see something that the school has not seen since the late 90's and some worthless two bit coward who does not even have the fortitude to place a name with their post has to chastise the team. Be happy for the football team and support them. This Coach has come a long way in their first year.
As far as the remark about them playing at a major University what is wrong with a student playing at a division 2 or 3 University ? A degree is a degree whether or not they earn it at a major University or a secondary. Taylor County has plenty of ex athletes participating in sports at the next level. And whether or not a student is in college for 1,2 or five years so what at least they are in college...
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How do you know the circumstances of anyone attending college ? Many people take longer than two years to get a degree. Some hold jobs, have families, or other responsibilities. A degree is a degree in this day and time. Let the students bask in their Glory and if you can not say anything nice about them then get a life. Once again I am glad to see the football team making strides within the Perry Community
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It is sickening that a thread about the football team has turned into this. Mr. Moderator, you should remove all those derogatory threads and leave this entirely about the Taylor County Bulldogs and the SUPER job their coach has done!! All I can say is three cheers for the DAWGS!!
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I just read them a few minutes ago and am working on it already. I will take this opportunity to remind everyone to follow the rules of use for TCT (a link is provided in the sidebar). Please keep the posts as adult as possible. It is one thing to disagree with a sports program or find it a waste of time, but to take it to the level a few of you have is unacceptable here. I have no problem with you opinions being expressed on TCT, matter of fact I welcome it, but not the childish comments that have been posted today. I am a sports fan and feel that athletic programs in schools, if run properly, bring many more positive attributes into a child's life besides keeping them in school.
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Good point BM, but I can sympathize with some of the bloggers/posts. I feel that folks are still very upset with the laying off of teachers, financial problems of the district and general malaise of the current administration on administrative / financial issues while going "all out" to hire the coach, ect... Now if the whole intent was to improve morale and make folks forget the financial and education standard fiascos, maybe Dyal is a genus. I think a lot of folks in the community are glad all things football have gone well this year, but are still very concerned about the other challenges the school district faces and the mis-steps Dyal and company make. Kudos to the football players and volunteers, but I agree with a prior post that their needs to be a tremendous focus on the three R's along with the extra-curricular activities. If the activities are payong for their collective expenses great, but there has been an issue raised about doings with the boosters and "manual checks" that has not been answered. It is things like this that create image problems in the community and tax-payer concern, be it the school district or DMH.
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Believe me, I do sympathize with the posters. It is extremely hard to appreciate the very few good things that happen when there is so much bad going on. My problem is attacking the students and berating them, when it is not their fault. Granted, regardless of what you do, some go bad, but giving them zero support will get zero return from them.
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McCoy, you should not expect too much from uneducated fanatical trailer countians, especially since they cannot graduate and pass an FCAT and cannot complete 2-year degree course work within the alloted time established by the State of Florida. That is not only a waste of their parent's resources, but also a waste of the tax-payer resources given the fact that the tuition paid at community colleges and state universities by students is only a fraction of what it costs the school to provide the education. My thought is that if a full time student cannot complete the course work in the time alloted, the student is either unprepared academically for college (back to the focus of education and less on sports) or is spending time (drinking, druging, tatooing/piercing, stalking or other deviant behavior) not focusing on getting their school work done. You see so many of these kids spending a semester or quarter in Tallahassee and Gainesville, only to return and squander their youth and getting into trouble. We are due to see a collection of students of the class of 2008 soon. Such a shame, you can see members of the classes of 2007 and 2006 cruising the streets daily. If you were to go to NFCC you will see some Taylor county students who went off to Tallahassee or Gainesville and have returned home to cach up at NFCC. Since many are attending community colleges in Tallahassee and Gainesville to begin with, are failing out, and then going to NFCC, they would have been better to start at NFCC.....but then the proud parents could not say "they are going to school in Gainesville", not saying the community college in Gainesville. Such a shame when they are taking courses available at NFCC and courses so basic they do not get college credit for such courses such as high school math.
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Crowley is not getting it done!
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Our "coach" appeared to be a cry-baby in the story in the mullet wrapper today. Also, anyone know what interesting things happened this week with Dyal and company? I wonder if these things will be in the mullet wrapper on Friday. Behind the scenes dealing, buying of votes out of the sunshine, sunshine law violations, going around dicipline policies and procedures, and good ole criminal activity. A hallmark of doing business the Dyal way.
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It's people like you who need a life, what are you talking about?
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If you have some information about something the public needs to know about, by all means please share. But the vague, shadowy accusations just leave everyone confused.
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I saw our "coach" on WCTV on the 11:00 PM news cast. What a whiner. Tax-payers are spending how much on this "coach" and his cronys? How much are the boosters paying under the table? Well whatever it is...it is too much. Our "coach" needs to provide some leadership and stop wasting time traveling around with game tapes and appearing on the news!
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You have to wonder who will pick up this "ball" and run with it, no pun intended. Will they waste additional resources bickering who is 4-1 or 5-0? I bet some of the potentates and charlatans are hatching a scheme. I say let it go and focus on graduating a class in 2010 that can read, write and perform basic math. A class that is ready for the world of work, post-secondary training/schooling or going into the military (which don't take dummys anymore). Get prepared for next year's football season.
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The booking desk for this week would be interesting. The kid with a gun at school. Sunshine law....well that is daily.
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It is good to see our new coach do what he thinks is the correct response to an "official" error. If he truly thinks a mistake was made then it is honorable for him to "state his case". I believe his players will see that he stands for what he believes in and he will stand behind them also. I'm glad to see the commotion this topic has stirred up because it shows that the passion for football and a winning program is a real win-win situation for all of Taylor County. Let those with negative post type away and get in on this winning wave. I'll be at Homecoming enjoying old and new friends and watching a great group of young men make memories that will last till their dying days.........Go Bulldogs! FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT........Play Fair and Hard and you will be winners in the Game of Life.... no matter what the score.......
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Interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3669qYcaZpM
Be sure to note the comments as well...
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Enough is enough. Stop the crying coach..Show alittle dignity...If we would have just won teh ball game it would not have mattered. Why be given a trophy for crying...Shame on you...Do you really want to be given a title for crying the loudest? Good season boys, now lets try to graduate..Again, why is Thompson even here? Great job big "D" achivever. Take you and your buddy "Harvey" back to Tally where your kids go to school..........
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It seems to me the coach has a right to be upset:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3669qYcaZpM
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I want to say thank you Bulldogs for a great game last night on your homecoming!! I drove 85 miles just to watch them play and what a pleasure it was to see the stands full and the crowd getting into the game! I want to challenge everyone to attempt to make the drive next Friday night to Pensacola as I am attempting to make plans to go also! If I am willing to dive an hour longer surely the fans of Taylor County can do the same! Good luck Bulldogs!
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Hi McCoy...Glad to see your comments on here. This football team has brightened our lives again. After two years of a recession and difficult times for our school system, it is great to have something to cheer about again. Myong and I have made the last two games and wished we had made them all. It was good to see a big crowd at Homecoming and sit with a classmate from 1973. I wish the best for these young men and their new coach this Friday. I will not make the trip but I'll be cheering them on from home. I hope you do get to travel to the game and ya'll all come home winners. Their already winners in my book no matter the score....GO DAWGS.........State Champs 1997.....and maybe 2009........
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I enjoy football, but found this disturbing:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/10/19/091019fa_fact_gladwell?currentPage=all
It turns out that the brain damage caused by football--including among high-school-aged players--may be worse than people think.
I'm betting it's just a matter of time before someone sues their alma mater for letting them play and sustain permanent neurological damage.
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One can get hurt crossing the road, slipping and falling in their home or anywhere. Please people, quit looking for the negatives in life and think positive. Give congratulations when congratulations are due. These boys are doing something good and I am glad to see it. realize when positive things such as the football team does well other things benefit as well. The school gets revenue from the gate proceeds. The Band gets revenue from the concession stand. Again I salute the team and the coaches for the pride and they are instilling in the young men and the great job they have done.
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Are you honestly telling me that after reading that article you don't think football is any more dangerous than ordinary, every-day activities? Did you read what the researchers are finding? 18-year-old football players with the kind of brain damage that's normally associated with old people who suffer from dimentia? And the fact that brain damage isn't a *risk* of playing football--that it's par for the course?
And are you saying that it's worth it? That school spirit and the revenue from tickets and concession sales are worth permanently harming our kids?
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In a nutshell,YES! No sport is safer than the sport of football. The strides made in safety over the years are gigantic and one can simply fall and bump their head on the floor and experience the same effects. What would one want in this world ? To live in a bubble ? The majority of your posts has been about other issues other than the football team. You have complained about the salaries of the coaches, the education of the students, and now the safety.( All if which I admit is important) This post was started by someone wanting to compliment the football team. Just do that. If you want to start a new blog about sports safety, coaches salaries, or education please do that but if not refrain from trying to steal a moment of pride from this team. They have worked hard and have earned the right to be praised. If you would like to start a separate blog on the other issues I am sure the moderator will be glad to do so. I end this by challenging everyone to follow the team Friday night and support the team. Let the coach use this team as a foundation for better things to come in the future in Taylor County.
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How, exactly, does posting that article here rather than in a new thread "steal a moment of pride from this time"?
I've given the Bulldogs props, writing that they've "played well" and that this "has been a great season." I also defended Coach Boggs' decision to fight the FHSAA ruling on the ineligible player.
For you to claim that it's worth sacrificing our kids' health for the sake of school spirit and dollars is just stunning. It shines light on your character, I must say.
And for you to claim that "[n]o sport is safer than the sport of football" shows your utter lack of objectivity. By all means, please present me with your research showing that volleyball players suffer the levels of brain damage experienced by football players. Or perhaps we could study people on track teams. Or swim teams. Football is no more dangerous than these, you say?
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Give up trying McCoy. This topic is about... "I would like to start a thread concerning the new football coach! I think the community should be able to give kudos to a first year coach who is 5-2 in his first season."...Now that may seem simple to me and you and a few others that "get it", but to those poor souls that for some reason don't "get it"..........oh well. Don't get caught up in the "sideline chat" and get outta the game. Just stick to the topic and "enjoy the ride" with our Team. GO DAWGS!......And I want to know.. Who let them Dawgs out?.......and the answer is......Coach Shane Boggs.....He's the man who let them Dawgs out......Good going young man........Thank You!
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Football is absolutely a contact sport and injuries do occur. I think technology has made it safer today than ever before. Medical data is more available so you didn't hear of these reports 50 years ago when our fathers played. No contact sport should be taken lightly, all you can do is make sure every precaution is taken. There are more injuries to kids riding bicyles every day than under the Friday Night Lights.
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But can they read and pass an FCAT? Kudos to the team, but let's get back to the rest of the school year and focus on graduating seniors who can read and write. The boosters have had their fun.
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nanananheyheyhey oh yeah
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Are you saying if the school system cuts all sports programs the academics will improve? That is ludicrous! School is like life, you must find balance to do both and trimming sports will not improve academics any more than trimming academics will improve sports.
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REPORT NO. 2009-171
MARCH 2009
http://edocs.dlis.state.fl.us/fldocs/ag/2009/2009-171.pdf
Some one with a child in this system may want to consider a legal action.
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What we consider legal action on, Mr. Know it all. All this is, is the States findings of the District, that has been straightened out. Are you lost or something?
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Seems like the haha is on Mr Ha Ha.
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There is a lot for the district to work on and improve. Great football season team, now the district should move on other items that need attention (financial, performance, ect...). I find it a bit absurd that the "boosters" who seek donations and support for the athletic program act so inmature, it really makes me want to donate to the cause!
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My boy can done work at my business, he it don't call for any readin', writin' or arithmatic. Anyways I done got the school board bids out the back door, and all my family's heads in the state/county feed trough. What me worry?
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There ain't no need for schooling, my boy can play football, get a job at the prison, welding or as a mill-wright and do just fine. He don't have no need to learn anything else! Go BullDawgs!
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The fact is we have children that come out of the same school system that are attending Medical School and those that can't read. We have children that are playing ball at the next level and those that are driving a log truck (not that there is anything wrong with that). The point is, with any school system the opportunity is there to learn. Granted it could be easier given the right environment but if there are those out there that can't read it's because they didn't apply themselves.
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Good point, the student gets out of school (education) what they put into it. Some folks cannot read or make a passing FCAT score and still seem to graduate. Some kids put a lot into their education and get scholarships and awards and some focus on popularity and cheer teams. It really comes down to what discipline the parents lay down and how they raise their kids. What is bad is that we have some kids from disadvantaged homes that pull themselves up and do well and other kids who have all of the advantages and do not do well, go figure. We also, from last years' graduating class, have many kids that do well and never get kudos. Such a shame, I have watched many of these kids leave our community and never look back, talk about a brain drain!
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Given the financial shape of the school district, it appears a little too much with the two charter buses and all of the TCHS staff loading up for the out of town game! Who pays for the buses and the staff time lost from staff leaving early? Does this mean another "manual check"? Dyal has some 'splaining to do to the tax-payers of the county!
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It may appear alot of people going to support their team, now I would say that is a very positive thing. The spirit buses are paid for by the riders on them, each rider pays a fee and therefore the bus is paid for. Soirit buses are done by every school in the state, especially when playoff time comes around. Now for people getting off work to go, what's wrong with that, teachers have time built up to take off, it's called leave, or earned time in some area's. Theres nothing to explain, but as usual a jerk, oh I'm sorry a poster like you want to start complaining again. Hey let's not let these fine young men and women in the band, football team, and the cheerleaders get any reward for their hard earned efforts. lets just let them go 4 hours away without any support into hostile area's, (football field) and not have any support, lets stop all the parents from going, because you know there bosses probably in your mind have alot of explaining to do because they took somne personal time to go and support their children. Maybe it's just jealously or I wish my child had participated I am not sure, but man get a life and stop your whining. GO DAWGS show anonyous how to enjoy hard earned success. Maybe he will wake up and become a better person than a bitter one, ha now that's a laugh.
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It would sure be nice to see an accounting of all things fiscal in regard to TCHS football. Did the boosters pay back the funding spent for the TN trip last summer? Has all of the resources been accounted for? Inquiring minds want to know. What has Vickie been up to??????
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You know, if you have information that supports you the State of Florida will help you. Please call them. There is no help on this thread for any accusation. Especially a anonymous one. If what you say is true let the chips fall where they may. The problem is there is a 99.99% probability it's not true but some pople believe everything they read. Hence, all the negativaty.
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GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!Glad you made it to the Playoffs.........Lots of Luck to the Players and Coach Boggs and his staff........Thanks for giving the fans something to cheer about and be proud of again in Taylor County!!!!
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Taylor scored on its first drive and made the two point conversion... 8-0..GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!
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DAWGS score again on its second drive.....98 yard drive...14-0... missed extra point........GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!
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The game is on 93.5 fm dial........Thanks to Fred Dockins!!!!The opponents just scored 14-7 Taylor Co........GO DAWGS!!!!!!!
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The game is now 14-14 ...GO DAWGS!
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Give their kicker credit for a 40+yard field goal. 17-14 our Dawgs are a trailing at the half...GO DAWGS!!!!!!!
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DAWGS trailing 38-21 with 10 mins left......."Hunker down" GO DAWGS!!!!!
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Final score 41-35. The Dawgs gave it a great try but couldn't beat a better team tonite. Thanks for an exciting year young men!!!!!!!!!!Thanks Coach Boggs for the memories of a great 2009 year of football at TCHS...
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Hey Jim, heard at the game, after losing to Pensacola Catholic, 'it don't matter, those catholics are all going to hell anyway'. I wonder if Boggs, cronys and company will beg and take another pre-game meal from the Catholic church in Perry for the third year in a row? I have a great idea, I bet the Catholic church in Perry would be better served and apprciated donating a free meal to 100 or so under-privilaged at Thanksgiving, Christamas or homeless any day of the week. Great team spirit, putz! Let's get back to educating our kids and put this football season to bed.
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Don't let one person spoil the fun for everyone. If you do, then just look at the spoil-sports on this blog. It don't spoil it for me. Everyone in our football program should be proud of what they have accomplished this season. Some people are able to do great things academically and some through our sports programs.....and some do both. I'm glad they have the opportunity to travel both paths........GO DAWGS!
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Blog Moderator.....For some reason when I reply to a comment it is not placed underneath the coresponding comment but at the end of the line. Is there a glitch in the system? I reposted my comment to WHY so it flows together.....
Why wrote:
Hey Jim, heard at the game, after losing to Pensacola Catholic, 'it don't matter, those catholics are all going to hell anyway'. I wonder if Boggs, cronys and company will beg and take another pre-game meal from the Catholic church in Perry for the third year in a row? I have a great idea, I bet the Catholic church in Perry would be better served and apprciated donating a free meal to 100 or so under-privilaged at Thanksgiving, Christamas or homeless any day of the week. Great team spirit, putz! Let's get back to educating our kids and put this football season to bed.
Jim Deal wrote:
Don't let one person spoil the fun for everyone. If you do, then just look at the spoil-sports on this blog. It don't spoil it for me. Everyone in our football program should be proud of what they have accomplished this season. Some people are able to do great things academically and some through our sports programs.....and some do both. I'm glad they have the opportunity to travel both paths........GO DAWGS!
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Jim, there is a Reply to this link at the very end of every post that you must click if you want to post a reply to that particular post. You can even reply to the reply or just reply to the original post. I will fix your post for you manually via the website and make sure it is working properly.
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Jim, you are reading the site in the "Linear" form. At the top of the page below the original topic you will see a survey, then Trackbacks, then a heading called Comments. Under that you will see "Display comments as (Linear | Threaded)". You must click Threaded for it to display correctly. The Linear form displays comments in order of the time and date of posting. Hope that helps.
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Thanks Mr. Moderator.....I never changed the way it has appeared once it comes to the comment I was searching for..now I know...thanks
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Jim, I appreciate you taking the time to provide updates on the game last night. I too want to congratulate the players and coaches for an excellent season. I am sure all of you put in plenty of hard work and it paid off. Players, keep that same momentum in your drive to achieve the goals you have set for yourself, and you will accomplish great things.
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Mr. Moderator, I have tried to keep this blog positive and on track as much as possible.....for one reason only. In case a player or coach decides to check out what is being said on here I want them to know that there are people here who appreciates the hard work, effort and time it takes to put together a football program...especially a winning one. They deserve the praise given. These kids do not wish to be roaming the streets but working on a common goal as a team, not running in gangs or getting into trouble. This group played as a TEAM, what a life lesson. And they were successful while doing it. Boys turned into men. If someone wants to find fault in that...oh well. When you see them, make their day with a kind word......and you can help show them that we do care and their hard work is noticed........GO DAWGS!
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3 Bartow Employees Punished In Kathleen Athlete Flap Bartow High workers rebuked for rooting out ineligible Kathleen players.
By BRANDT MERRITT
THE LEDGER
Published: Friday, November 20, 2009 at 9:16 p.m.
Two Bartow High School employees were officially reprimanded and another was verbally warned for their roles in discovering an ineligible football player at Kathleen High School last month, but the controversy appears to be far from over. The Polk County School District released the report of its investigation into the Bartow officials' actions Friday. The district concluded that Bartow football coach Shawn Killets and guidance counselor Amanda Craven violated federal and state law when they accessed the academic records of Kathleen football players. Both were issued written reprimands. Athletic Director Glenn Rutenbar was given a verbal warning for failing to notify Bartow Principal Ron Pritchard of Killets' and Craven's actions when they first came to light. Kathleen was forced to forfeit six football games in which the ineligible player participated this season, knocking the Red Devils out of the playoffs. Guidance staff at Kathleen had misapplied the grade-forgiveness policy by replacing the student's F in a class with a D, when only a C or higher can replace those grades under state statutes. Killets, Rutenbar and Craven have filed grievances with the district asking that their punishments be rescinded. Ron Ciranna, assistant superintendent for human resources, said the district will hear their grievances the week of Nov. 30. according to the report, Killets received an anonymous phone call sometime after the Sept. 25 game between Bartow and Kathleen, which the Red Devils won, 21-0. The caller told Killets that multiple players at Kathleen were academically ineligible.
One or two weeks later, Killets went to Rutenbar with the information, and on Oct. 13 he went to Craven with a roster of Kathleen players and asked her to look up their records. Three questionable records were found, and Killets informed the district's athletic director, Don Bridges, of those students Oct. 14. The school district then determined that only one of the players was ineligible and informed Kathleen High School that day.
Kathleen then self-reported the violation to the Florida High School Athletic Association. In its report, the district found inconsistencies in the recollections of Killets, Rutenbar and Craven during the investigation, including whether Killets provided Craven with a specific name to look up first, which date Killets received the anonymous phone call and whether Rutenbar advised Killets to look up the grades.
Another example of what is wrong!
For complete story see http://www.theledger.com/article/20091120/NEWS/911205055/1410?Title=3-Bartow-Employees-Punished-In-Kathleen-Athlete-Flap.
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Jim is not the Real Deal....abc
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Are you saying Joe is the "REAL DEAL"......I think not! WE both are TCHS Bulldawg fans.....GO DAWGS!!But as a twin..I was born first and picked the NOLES!...So he got the GATORS as a "second" pick....GO DAWGS and NOLES!!!!!!!!from the "REAL DEAL"...lol
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Hey Jim, I agree with you. Great season for the team and the Coach. They now have a wonderful foundation to build on. As far as the anonymous remarks on here..I have learned to pay NO attention to them. You see, when people chat online anonymously, they tend to say things they'd never otherwise stand behind.You do not stop to talk to a bile spewing idiot on the street do you? So pay no attention to some of these out of the world remarks. Again, congratulations to the team, he players and their support staffs such as the band. It was nice to see some of that old Bulldog pride when I visited the other night.
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How many times will local adults ride on the backs of children’s accomplishments and take the small amount (a tiny cup full) of self-esteem (glory) earned though hard work and pour it into their own large empty cups? As far as I can see it happens every time. These are the complainers and whiners posting here while hiding behind a positive image promotion for this distressed/depressed town/county.
A community without positive direction and vision of a brighter future to offer these same children unfortunate enough to have been raised here can have little value and self-esteem. Looking for positives in a sea of negatives requires too much struggle and perseverance and most give up and move away. There are the few who give up and give in to the demands of special interest needs to keep it small and take it all.
The losers often pretending to be winners whine and cry we “need to say positive things about our community” and “scold ‘em BM” for not going along.
This is sad and silly.
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I think most everyone here is proud of the accomplishments of the coaching staff and the students. The Bulldogs had an outstanding season--no doubt about it.
What I see here isn't people complaining and whining, but simply saying that academics must always remain the top priority. That it would be great if school spirit were just as elevated by high FCAT scores as by a winning football season. That the only way to truly give our kids a "positive direction and vision of a brighter future" is to get them a top-quality education.
The perception among many seems to be that athletics is more highly valued that education, which is why football can't be mentioned without someone chiming in about academic issues.
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TCC, I agree for the most part. If you visit school campus there is a sense of pride among students you just haven't seen in a long time. I visit often and you don't see kids running the halls during class time as I've seen in the recent past. If we can use sports to instill pride back into the atmosphere I am certain it will trickle over into academics. Young adults only produce the results demanded of them and we haven't expected a lot out of them in the past. They are capable of amazing things.
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Good points. Academics needs the same gung-ho attention given to the football program. If you look at all of the time, effort and resources put towards the football program over the last year as the schools are failing and financies were questionable it is only fitting that tax-payers are concerned. Being concerned in no way is anti-football program, the main function of the school district is to educate the children. Shine in the classroom! Also I do not see any mention of the band, these kids have done a great job and get very little kudos!
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There is a story about the Madison County Coach resiging. Just think we could have had this janitor as our coach. What could have been! LOL!!!!
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That janitor has not had a losing season and brought a championship to the community.
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He still is not an honorable person to use our coach opening as a way to get a raise and a new truck from Madison County, all without any credentials to teach. Does this sound familiar? It ought to!
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Get all the facts. He followed up for a job. Anyone would do the same. Many High School Booster Clubs pay coaches money and benefits in addition to what the school pays them. Similar to colleges. If the Madison deal surprises you, you would have a heart attack if you knew about some deals in the State of Texas. There are high school coaches making more than college professors. Right or wrong it happens everywhere and if Taylor is going to compete it has to happen here.
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It's definitely wrong.
http://www.sportspower.com/football/news/view/36347
I certainly hope the local boosters haven't violated these rules.
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This, in our small part of the world, is small town football. We have so many issues and it is absurd for any one or group of people (boosters) to champion such causes when people in our community are homeless, hungry, can't read, ect...... An yes that coach in Madison is/was a complete idiot that used the greed and stupidity of our district's potentates and charlatans to feather his own nest, albeit for only one season! LOL!!!
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With the doings of the folks that the HS Athletic Association, it is no wonder that the HS boosters and related cronys in the school system sell out education for sports. "The new head of the powerful organization that regulates high school sports stepped into the job amid controversy and hasn't been afraid of it since. Read story from Cynthia Barnett" ... see Florida Trend article
http://www.floridatrend.com/article.asp?aID=52077 .
It is all about the money....as in manual checks. What about some checking into that and other issues in the finance office.
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Yes the Jimbo FSU deal also shows that we are more interested in sports than higher education as well. Education in the backseat to money...this is a mixed up country we live in!
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Now we are going to tart critisizing FSU for hiring a coach, what does that have to do with congradulating the local coach and players for a job well done, Go figure??????
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