Student Caught with Gun on TCHS Campus

This issue has been alluded to in other discussions here, and probably warrants its own topic.

In November, a student was caught with a gun on campus at Taylor County High School.

The school district has a board-approved discipline matrix that clearly defines the punishment for various offenses. The purpose of that matrix is to ensure that all students are treated fairly and equally—no favoritism. According to the matrix (http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/shared.content/board.policies/discipline.matrices/discipline.matrix.pdf, page 8) this offense is punished by expelling the student for one year. It's important to note the wording of the discipline matrix here; it doesn't say that a student *may* be expelled for bringing in a gun (with some offenses, expulsion is recommended but not required). It says that the only possible punishment for this offense is expulsion.

The reason for this probably related to Florida Statute 1006.13 (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/STATUTES/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch1006/Sec13.HTM). Here's the applicable section (emphasis added):

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(3)  Zero-tolerance policies must require students found to have committed one of the following offenses to be expelled, with or without continuing educational services, from the student's regular school for a period of not less than 1 full year, and to be referred to the criminal justice or juvenile justice system.

(a)  Bringing a firearm or weapon, as defined in chapter 790, to school, to any school function, or onto any school-sponsored transportation or possessing a firearm at school.

(b)  Making a threat or false report, as defined by ss. 790.162 and 790.163, respectively, involving school or school personnel's property, school transportation, or a school-sponsored activity.

District school boards may assign the student to a disciplinary program for the purpose of continuing educational services during the period of expulsion. District school superintendents may consider the 1-year expulsion requirement on a case-by-case basis and request the district school board to modify the requirement by assigning the student to a disciplinary program or second chance school if the request for modification is in writing and it is determined to be in the best interest of the student and the school system. If a student committing any of the offenses in this subsection is a student who has a disability, the district school board shall comply with applicable State Board of Education rules.
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This law appears to say that a student caught with a firearm at school MUST be either expelled, assigned to a disciplinary program, or put in a second chance school. And if the superintendent wants either of the latter two options, he or she must request it from the board in writing.

The problem is, none of those three things happened to this student. He wasn't expelled (minutes from the expulsion hearing are at http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/shared.content/board.meetings/minutes/11-10-09.pdf). That much is public record. Further word on the street is that he wasn't assigned to a disciplinary program or put in a second chance school, either. This isn't public record, but can easily be confirmed by talking to any of the student's classmates.

Some questions this issue brings up:

  •  Did the principal of the high school recommend expulsion for the student?
  •  Did the superintendent ask the school board in writing to waive expulsion despite the principal's recommendation? If so, why? If not, why did board note vote for expulsion?
  •  How did each school board member vote on the issue? Did any vote in favor of expulsion, or was the opposition unanimous?
  •  How does the school board reconcile its decision to not expel the student with its discipline matrix that requires expulsion for gun possession?
  •  What's the school district's attorney's interpretation of Florida Statute 1006.13 as it relates to expelling students caught with guns on campus?

All of the above information is public record.

What isn't public record is the name of the student. This being a small town, though, everyone has an idea who it was. It would be inappropriate to put the name here, but suffice it to say it's the son of a prominent local family. The question being asked is whether the student was given special consideration due to who his parents are? Did the the board break the law by not expelling him? Did they, at the very least, violate their own policy? Or were they acting reasonably by showing leniency?

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  • 1/23/2010 12:25 AM Farmer wrote:
    Sounds like someone needs to call his/her lawyer. Juicy story though. Defamation of a minor...could be some consequences of this post. Not to mention I would be pretty pissed if I was the subject of an internet blogging witch hunt. Just my personal opinion but I would pull this immediately.
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    1. 1/23/2010 8:24 AM Taylor County Citizen wrote:
      You'd be hard-pressed to find a defamation attorney that would touch this with a ten-foot pole.

      For one thing, the student isn't identified. All that's said is that he's male and has big-wig parents.

      But even more importantly, nothing malicious, derogatory, or false has been said about the student. These things are generally a requirement for libel/slander.
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  • 1/30/2010 1:29 PM Farmer wrote:
    Haven't been able to post here for a couple of days...Just wondering if the topic is offline.
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    1. 1/30/2010 1:33 PM Taylor County Citizen wrote:
      The whole board has been pretty quiet lately.
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      1. 1/30/2010 1:38 PM I wonder wrote:
        Quiet would be an understatement, maybe everyone just decided it just was not worth reading. lol
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  • 1/30/2010 1:49 PM Anonymous wrote:
    I have had trouble posting with the site stating that my session had timed out. Great topic, it is just another example of selective enforcement by the school board and Dyal. I understand Dyal tried to get the student and gun off campus before law enforcement was called and tried to quite the whole fiasco based on who the kid is and who the parents are. Typical potentate acts in trailer county. We have a long history of overlooking bad behavior of the "good kids"!
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  • 2/12/2010 10:27 AM Anonymous wrote:
    WCTV was in town this week asking questions about this other Dyal fiasco. You have to wonder what is accomplished when folks stick their collective heads in the sand when selectively enforcing the discipline matrix on the "good kids". You can only imagine what would have happened if the "kid caught" with a gun at school would have been from the wrong side of the tracks, a minority or not residing in Pohill subdivision. I think jail would have been a real possibility. I can tell you one thing, the superintendent would not have been so quick to create a cove-up, get the student off campus and muddy the water to protect a golfing buddy's kid. Another sad reality of te Dyal administration, now what is the score; ethically challenged, math challenged and now subverting the discipline matrix. Way to go Dyal!
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    1. 2/12/2010 10:34 PM Taylor County Citizen wrote:
      Who was WCTV asking questions of? I'll be curious to see if they end up running anything about it; I haven't seen anything so far.

      I don't know what Dyal's position on this issue may have been, but I do know that the board--not the superintendent--makes the decisions about expulsions. They're the ones responsible for not adhering to the discipline matrix.

      I absolutely agree with your sentiment that things may well have turned out differently if the kid had been from the wrong side of the tracks. My hunch is that he'd have been expelled in a heartbeat. But maybe I'm just overla cynical.
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  • 2/15/2010 9:23 AM anonYmous2 wrote:
    The board acts on the recommendations of the superintendent! If they could think for themselves, things would have been a lot different a long time ago.
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    1. 2/15/2010 9:37 AM Taylor County Citizen wrote:
      But the superintendent didn't have to bring this item to the board in the first place. The board doesn't make the agendas for their own meetings; the superintendent does. They can't vote on something unless he brings it to them.

      So if he didn't want the student expelled, why bring it to the board at all? It could be that he supported it, but they didn't.

      Of course, we'll never know, since expulsion hearings aren't subject to sunshine laws.
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  • 2/15/2010 9:46 AM anonYmous2 wrote:
    My point exactly! If Dyal doesn't put it on the agenda, then the board doesn't act on it. Here's a thought, how about a board member putting something on the agenda?
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    1. 2/15/2010 10:06 AM Taylor County Citizen wrote:
      It has always been my understanding that this just isn't how things are done (not only in Taylor County, but all Florida school districts). I assumed it was due to the way Florida laws separated the duties of the board from those of the superintendent.

      But in researching the issue to respond to your post, I found this:

      http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/printview/EC6FAD8273F9D06A85256B490057A9DF

      It's a legal opinion rendered by former Florida Attorney General Bob Butterworth in 2002. In it, he states that Florida law "does not dictate that the superintendent has sole control over the school board agenda."

      I'm not an attorney, but it sounds like the board may, indeed, have the authority to put items on the agenda.
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  • 2/16/2010 11:45 AM wha..wha..wha wrote:
    having the authority and exercising that authority is two different things!
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  • 2/17/2010 4:06 PM DyalsJob wrote:
    The day to day operation of the school district starts and stops at Dyal's desk, the buck stops at Dyal's desk. The cover-ups, corruption, misleading budget numbers, lies and fiduciary shell games all flow from Dyal's desk. Dyal has the responsibility for all of this mess....he is the school superintendant and it is his job to get the job done.
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  • 2/17/2010 9:44 PM Anonymous wrote:
    And Dyal should take appropriate action against kids who bring guns to school, administrative staff who are arrested (and not bail them out....hmm a manual check?) and trusted with school finances, and other school district employees who conduct their personal life like an all night crack/meth binge drunken domestic violence episode of cops. I say the chamber should contact the shows Cops and/or the First 48 or CBS for a new revised Green Acres reality show to increase business in the county. Heck the chamber could start out with the Pam Feagle case/fiasco. No that would be must see teevee for all of the folks in our community.
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  • 2/18/2010 11:42 PM anonymous wrote:
    Follow policy and no questions can be asked. Be fair. That makes for a good leader. The School Board needs to clear this accusation up. Who wants to send their children to school where they don't feel protected?
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  • 2/19/2010 11:17 AM Fools In Office wrote:
    Good point, the school district has personnel policies and procedures, procurement policies and procedures, general accepted accounting procedures, audits, a discipline matrix for students, Florida law, Florida School Laws, IT policies and many other tools to operate the school district. It is amazing how Dyal and company and school board members spend most of their time looking for ways to subvert these "tools" for self dealing, self profiting, cronyism and just plain corruption. Dyal and company and school board members act / think like they are the ones who have invented corruption, silly fools, it has all been done by folks before and you fools are not smarter than most folks! Well maybe smarting than a lot of the voters that put these fools in office! LOL!!!
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  • 3/4/2010 1:02 PM NewKidSameTreatment wrote:
    You have to wonder if the kid who shot the BB Gun at the school bus will get the same "pass" as the Dyal crony's son who brought a deer rifle to school in plain view of everyone. Why wasn't Dyal covering for this youngster? When Dyal selectively enforces the dicipline rules for the "good Kids" of the potentates and charlatans, how can he enforce the discipline rules on other kids who violate the rules. I am not saying that the kid who shot the BB gun should be excused, I just wonder if DYal will go all out to expidite a discipline hearing and cover for this student. The "good kid" who brought the deer rifle to school endangered every student, school employee and visitor to the TCHS on that day. Any mental defective could have gotten that gun and killed as many people as bullets available. Heck, the "good kid" could have been on a drug binge and done it himself. When yoou have a parent(s) who alcoholic, the kid may be abusing substances as well. A shame for all concerned. The BB gun toting kid may be suffering from bad parenting, the "good kid" and his parents know better!
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  • 3/4/2010 3:34 PM Anonymous wrote:
    I agree, it is no small miracle that, with as many guns in our community and despite the lack of parental oversight, and bad parenting we have not had some type of shooting that has plagued Colorado schools, Virginia schools and places of employment across the great country. I am not anti-gun, but also think that with most folks in our community owning guns, it may keep down some crimes as home invasion and such. Who knows, I just hope and pray that a better job will be done by our school system to punish stupid kids who bring guns to school and shoot others, even with a BB gun, so we never have such problems as other cities and towns. To me it is ultimately the parents who are failing when these kids behave badly, on all socioeconomic levels, the so called "good-kids'" ought to be ashamed of themselves, the other kids, like the one with the BB gun this week, almost never have a chance with the hand they have been delt in life at such a young age. Shame on all of us; indiviuals, churches, DJJ, DCF, guardian ad litem and others not acting to intervine on this child, help now or get him a bed ready at the jail/prison down the road. This happens too much in our community! We used to do a better job!!!!
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  • 3/8/2010 9:30 PM Honest Services Fraud YES wrote:
    You look at the news the past week and month and see the crazy folk who walk in and shoot people, and you look at this situation of a kid bringing a rifle, a high powered rifle to the school. A firearm that could have created a Colorado type school shooting, I just have one question; what the hell is Dyal thinking? Has he lost his mind? If all the talk is true, he is the most inappropriate, lack of judgement, ethically challenged school administrator this region has ever seen. What passes for appropriate leadership in the community is criminal!
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  • 3/9/2010 12:02 PM Anonymous wrote:
    The county is full of potential criminals in positions of leadership. Someone start getting them out. Pick one. School administration, city government, county government, chamber, sheriff's dept, EMS and just about any board.
    Back up the talk.
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    1. 3/11/2010 7:30 PM anomyous wrote:
      The reason those in leadership don't make good judgments is because they have no fear of God and love for their fellowman. They are truly enjoying the way they live with no regard for others.
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  • 3/10/2010 10:53 AM GoodForOneGoodForTheOther wrote:
    Dyal, is the NRA sponsoring activities on campus? LOL! Why not have the kid who brought a gun on campus give a testimonial on why students should not bring guns to school. Better yet, have the student continue the mentoring theme with the BB gun bandit you can not seem to provide and mentoring to within the district. Dyal needs to provide the same intervention to the BB gund bandit as he did the kid who brought the deer rifle to school.
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  • 3/11/2010 9:46 AM Journalism101Folks wrote:
    First the Chamber fiasco with all of the potentates and charlatans and then the kid who brought the deer rifle to school. The "local newspaper" just cannot seem to get a story in the paper. I wonder if these folks are weekly advertisers in the "local newspaper" or maybe just fishin', drinkin', smokin' or felonious partners in the fleecing of our community.
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  • 3/11/2010 3:26 PM Car54WhereAreYou wrote:
    Someone told me that there was a small article about the BB gun bandit in Wednesday's "local newspaper". Could this mean that there is an article forth-coming about the moronic pot-head who brought a deer rifle to school and got a "pass" and "get out of jail free card"? I bet there will be a special edition (or tabloid to sell more ads) about all the "good-kids", "chamber potentates", and others' follies that occur regularly.
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    1. 3/11/2010 5:33 PM Taylor County Citizen wrote:
      Unless someone new takes over the paper, there won't be a word about the TCHS gun incident in there.
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  • 3/11/2010 5:54 PM Anonymous wrote:
    You are right, this is the local watergate cover-up all the way to Dyal's office, the golf course and the "local newspaper". A lot of the potentates and charlatans do not want any waves before the elections this fall, but I doubt the potentates, charlatans, their children and cronys can keep a clean nose (in a literal sense) until November 2010. Bunch of Wal-mart Retardlicans! LOL!!
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  • 3/11/2010 8:38 PM HUH wrote:
    I think according to the bloggers on here that all the board members and politicians go to church, therefore the comment about them fearing god would be false, wouldn't it?
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    1. 3/15/2010 4:54 PM anonymous wrote:
      Answer to your question: It would depend on their reason for attending church. Most people are known by their actions. Please note: HUH had some very interesting comments on this subject.
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  • 3/11/2010 10:08 PM WhereAreTheTeaBaggers wrote:
    Well I have noticed that a lot of the politicians and wanna-be politicians get "religion" when they are running for office, but do not typically attend church on a regular basis. I would agree that you do not have to attend church or an organized religous group to be close to God and a good christian person, however when you put on this falsehood of being religious for political gain and for votes it offends me and (from discussions with others) a lot of folks in the community. I think we have some in our community, politicians, that do not fear God as much as they fear losing the check they get. These "business" people we elect for positions cannot read a financial report and are derelict in their fiduciary responsibility of the office they hold. It is such a shame, we all spend a lot of time being critical of congress and folks in Washington, DC, but fail to see the massive waste and fraud in our own local community, the region and in Tallahassee. I think we need to start a tea-party for local issues, regional issues and state issues. Where are you tea-baggers?
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  • 3/19/2010 6:56 AM A Student wrote:
    I'm a student at the high school, and I'm a girl at that. Yeah he took the gun to school, but it was in his truck for goodness sakes. It wasn't like he walked right up into school to shoot everyone. Everyone freaks out about this gun control thing the schools has and how certain things are supposed to happen if someone is caught with a gun, but has everyone in Taylor County forgot that we live in a small city where the majority of the citizens HUNT. And thats why he had the gun in his truck. But of course no one wants to consider thinking about that. They automatically want to jump to comclusions or start blaming.
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    1. 3/19/2010 7:52 AM Taylor County Citizen wrote:
      Everyone here knows how many people hunt in Taylor County. Nobody thinks his goal was to come shoot the place up. The thing is, that's irrelevant.

      The fact remains that it's a violation of the student code of conduct to possess a gun on school property. That includes hunting guns in students' vehicles.

      The fact also remains that the school board's policy calls for the expulsion of students who violate this rule, because that's what Florida law requires.

      He broke the rules, but he didn't have to pay the price--and probably because of who his family was. I'd bet my bottom dollar that if a poor black kid from a non-influencial family had been caught with a gun, that kid would've been kicked out of school in a heartbeat.
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      1. 4/8/2010 2:01 PM school employee wrote:
        Amen! you are correct. it was who his family is in town. Owns a business so he gets off. I do understand about the hunting. I have a house full of hunters and fishermen. But he knew but he probably chose to see if he could get away with it and he did!
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  • 3/19/2010 10:31 AM Anonymous wrote:
    "A student" shows the maturity level of a lot of the students. The fact is bringing a gun to school is unlawful, fact is regardless whether the student was not appropriately charges, fact is Dyal covered it up. This is kind of like when the student a few years ago got another student drunk, abused her and dumped her at the hospital and she got trouble. Same ilk, a good kid from a "good" family. lol! The kid's deer rifle could have been stolen and used by some other mental defective!
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  • 3/23/2010 8:56 PM A Student wrote:
    Ya'll adults are acting absolutely childish. Ya'll are honestly sitting at home, checking onto this website all the time, gossiping about other people. Yeah your voicing your opinion, as I done also. But its not like its gonna be "heard" and taken into consideration. The past is the past. We can't change it. And we live in a judgmental world, where certain things depend on who you are, where your from, who you know or whatever the case may be. So get off your pedestal and get over it.
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    1. 3/23/2010 9:16 PM fromthevoiceofachild wrote:
      To a student. Everyone who does nothing but complain should read your post, you are wiser than your years.
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    2. 3/27/2010 9:46 AM Taylor County Citizen wrote:
      Are you saying that's acceptable? That it's okay for there to be special rules for certain people?

      I disagree that voices of dissent won't be heard. Our nation has a proud history of successful dissent, starting with its inception.

      When our leaders do wrong, we have an obligation to speak against it. When enough people do so, there will be results.
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      1. 3/27/2010 9:52 AM Rose wrote:
        I agree 100% with you.

        To "A Student" what if ... heaven forbid, that the gun which should not have been on school property got in the hands of the wrong person and killed you or a friend of yours? Then your attitude would be a little different, I would venture to say. Things happen. Laws are there for the lawless. Whoever it was that had a gun on school property should have been expelled, it that is what the law says.
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  • 3/25/2010 4:28 PM WeHavelawsStupid wrote:
    FromTheVoiceOfAChild is likely drunk at the mud-bog with her dixie drawers around her ankles! LOL!!! Grow-up, laws are for a purpose!
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  • 4/5/2010 6:46 PM tchsgrad wrote:
    the kid had a deer rifle at school? i dont see the big deal with this. everyone is acting like this kid is doing something bad that no other kid would do. i went to tchs and had a rifle behind the seat of my truck everyday throughout hunting season. someone saw this kid, and that is the only reason anyone is paying any attention to this, it happens all the time in communities like this. we are kids, we live in perry. we grew up hunting and fishing, its the only thing to do in this town, an alot of us get up early go hunting before school. WHO CARES if hes a good kid with rich parents? worry about your own bank account. someone called him a pot head. hell yea man, keep burnin its better for ya than drinkin an keeps you level headed. when you graduate an get out off perry your gona start findin good bud, an itll be on point. the parents should be worried about the teachers. my ninth grade biology teach was a coke head. everyone knows who im talkin about, but i dont know if she still teaches there. we also had a teacher sleeping with a student but i dont think it made big news
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    1. 4/5/2010 8:11 PM Taylor County Citizen wrote:
      Well, it's not your call whether or not it's a big deal. School safety is a HUGE deal, and has been since Columbine. Guns aren't allowed on campus--it's against the school's rules, and I believe it's against the law as well. You tout the fact that you broke these rules as though you're proud of it.
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  • 4/5/2010 9:49 PM tchsgrad wrote:
    such a small school, everyone knows who they need to worry about. if the students arent makin a fuss over it then its probably not that big a deal. dont condemn him before you know what happend. if the kid was any kind of a threat i have confidence that Paul Dyal would do his job.
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    1. 4/6/2010 6:53 AM Taylor County Citizen wrote:
      That's not how rules and laws work. You don't get to apply them just to the people you think they should apply to. Florida requires schools to take a zero-tolerance stance on guns. That applies to all students.

      And as someone else on this board mentioned, it's not just the students who bring the guns that you have to worry about--it's other students as well. Let's say Harry the Hunter brings a gun, and is a mentally stable guy who would never dream of hurting anyone. That's all well and good, but what about Eric the Emo? What happens when Eric gets tired of people pushing him around? He knows Harry keeps a rifle in his truck. All he has to do is grab it, and he can take revenge on the folks he thinks have done him wrong. If the school also knew that Harry kept a gun in his truck but never took action against him for it, what sort of liability issues (both moral and legal) might the district face after Eric's rampage?
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  • 4/6/2010 9:37 AM tchsgrad wrote:
    oh so its not about harry the hunter its about poor little eric the emo getting pushed around. emo is a style of music not an emotional state. just because someone doesnt listen to country or old southern rock doesnt mean they are going to loose it and shoot up the school. so who cares if eric the emo( hahah) knows about the gun. what about cheryl the cheerleader, gerone the gangsta or jack thr jock. a persons subcultural choices doesnt predispose them to violence.
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  • 4/6/2010 11:42 AM Yea Really wrote:
    It is against the law and against school board policy. The policy was violated by the "good kid" and subsequently Dyal and others to cover it up. I hope the voters remember this at election time.

    Secondly, the intent of law and policy is keep the gun out of the hands of "eric the emo, cheryl the cheerleader, gerone the gangsta, and jack the jock". The "good Kid" who unlawfully brought a gun to school potentially endangered everyone at the school site. It is amazing what maturity level passes for a TCHS graduate.
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  • 4/6/2010 12:36 PM tchsgrad wrote:
    i understand their are rules. but rules are broken all the time. cover ups happen all the time in politics. thats how government works. punishing this kid, sending him to jail. whats that gona prove? ruin this kids life befor he graduates? hes got such a bright future ahead of him an all alot of u wana do is waste your tax dollar to put some non violent offender behind bars.
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    1. 4/6/2010 5:48 PM Taylor County Citizen wrote:
      You're right--rules are broken all the time, and cover-ups happen. However, that's not how government HAS to work. We have the right--and the obligation--to fight su things.

      I'm not looking for the kid to go do jail; I just want to see his punishment match what the school board's policy says it's supposed to be (i.e., expulsion). What would punishing him prove? That the rules apply equally to EVERYONE, regardless of who your parents are. That there are consequences for your actions. These are good life lessons.
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  • 4/6/2010 1:13 PM tchsgrad wrote:
    just because he is a "good kid" and has rich parent. worry about your own kids, your own bank accounts, and do not worry about your employers.
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  • 4/6/2010 6:00 PM A Shame wrote:
    tchs grad, spoken like a true trailer countian. Everybody has a "buddy" in the courthouse. We can blame our leaders for such a lawless community, state and country. Here we have a person justifying breaking the law. The sad part is that a majority of our community likely have this opinion, unless you are poor, a minority, ect...you should get a get out of jail free card. So it goes for the good kids, potentates and charlatans.
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  • 4/6/2010 10:55 PM trailer countian high grad wrote:
    well gat dam, you sound like one dem damnd "elitists" i been readn so much on here.
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  • 4/7/2010 10:17 AM Ode of the Good Kids wrote:
    We have beat this topic like a dead horse. We can all agree that Dyal fumbled this issue and it is another example of it matters who you are and the rules are applied selectively. Shame on you Dyal and School Board you ought to be ashamed of your actions. This "good kid" like so many other "good kids" in this community never learn their lessons. It is no wonder they go to Gainesville and Tallahassee, enroll in community college and are back after not keeping up grades. Another example of lack of leadership of the school board when kids go and are in remedial classes at the community college pretending to go to FSU and UF. LOL. All you leaders, mommas and daddys, you do not do your "good kids" any favors. Save our community from this whole generation of "good kids" that do not bring anything positive to our community.
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  • 4/7/2010 11:26 AM tchsgrad wrote:
    well atleast some of us good kids are getting some college. i guess only us good kid that have rich parents get the opportunity to go to tallahassee and gainesville to make something of ourselves. my graduating class was the smallest to graduate from tchs at the time. alot of the good kids with rich folks, the kids i grew up with did not walk with my class but with tti. it has been my experience that all the kids have a lack of motivation and very few have good morals. not just the good kid but the "regular kids" and the "bad kids". alot of it gets blamed on unfairness and special treatment for the "good kids" ut this is just the parents who are jealous of the parents of the good kids an their bank accounts. you all should be worried about your childs proformance. the world is not fair. it is obvious that not everyone is born equal but here in america, with hard work an dedication everyone has the ability to improve their situation. you just have to have the balls and the brains to do what needs to be done. and in perry i never saw too many kids with any motivation to go above and beyond. how can you expect the teachers and school board to run a tight ship when its your kids that wont listen.
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  • 4/7/2010 12:50 PM StupidIsWhatStupidDoes wrote:
    "some of us good kids are getting some college" - well you could not tell this by your writing ability and grammar. Maybe you are not one of the good rich kids. Or maybe the apple does not fall far from the tree. LOL! Moron! Run Forest Run!
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  • 4/7/2010 12:51 PM tchsgrad wrote:
    i graduated in 06. dont know if the last 4 years have had smaller sizes or not, i know alot of the "good kids" didnt get to walk in 08. but they are still tchs grads.
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  • 4/7/2010 1:06 PM tchsgrad wrote:
    this isnt an essay. are you mrs rollins? am i getting graded for blurting out my thoughts on a message board? if "some of us good kids are getting some college" is too hard for you to read then you should probably work on your context clues. which part were you having trouble with? is it the some college part? cuz... ehem.. because I have alway heard that some college is better than no college.
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  • 4/7/2010 2:33 PM Anonymous wrote:
    tchsgrad, go back to the mud-bog, I think you are sobering up. Some good grammar skills should be obvious. I take it you were not one of Mrs. Rollins "scholars". Are you getting enough hours at Martin Electronics and/or McDonalds. Good kids or not, the youth of this community have a lot of growing up to do, wet behind the ears and I don't mean pond water from the mud-bog.
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  • 4/7/2010 2:53 PM tchsgrad wrote:
    some good grammar skills should be obvious to what? i definitely was a scholar of Mrs Rollins, 10th and 12th grade. i have never attended one of the mud bogs although i do support the people who do attends right to do so. not working in perry. im in tallahassee, probably pretending to go to fsu right now. what do my work hours have to do with anything? where do you work? how many hours do you get? you stoped making points in your argument and started picking on my grammar. lets stay on topic here. but yea. the youth does have alot of growing up to do. their parents should be giving them more guidance at home instead of relying on the school system to churn out perfect members of society.
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  • 4/7/2010 3:13 PM Anonymous wrote:
    Go back to the meth pipe. I hope that nursing assistant thing works out for you. Run Forest Run! LOL!
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  • 4/7/2010 3:53 PM tchsgrad wrote:
    like i said, off topic and slanderous. you proved your ignorance when you ran out of things to say that apply to the topic at hand.
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  • 4/7/2010 4:31 PM Anonymous wrote:
    Hey, I do not come down to the barn and tell you how to do you milking do I. LOL! There is nothing left to say on this topic. Good luck with that CNA thing.
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  • 4/7/2010 4:34 PM tchsgrad wrote:
    good luck with that welding thing
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    1. 4/8/2010 7:36 AM 08don't-hate wrote:
      ha! How great would it be if they really did weld?
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      1. 4/8/2010 7:39 AM Anonymous wrote:
        ^^^^
        to TCHSGRAD
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  • 4/7/2010 4:51 PM Anonymous wrote:
    Isn't it shift change at the nursing home. Get off those old peoples internets. They need to get their MSMBC on.
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  • 4/7/2010 5:01 PM tchsgrad wrote:
    nah, shifts dont change for another 2 min. an all the geezers are off to get there free obama euthanasia meds
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  • 4/7/2010 5:06 PM Jim Deal wrote:
    Too bad this blog has turned into a dumber and dumber match. Good luck to the winner. The gun issue is the reason this started and its a shame you can't carry a gun in your truck to school anymore. It should be mandatory to have a firearm in your house and vehicle...period. This right has been eaten away by good-doers in their lame attempt to curb violence...at the detriment to law-abiding citizens who have a right to "bear arms" as our forefathers had enough sense, which is lacking on this blog, to realize that this was an important issue. If you break the law with a gun then pay the time, don't do the "when in the first grade when one messes up, punish the whole crowd" thing. Every just chill...it ain't about the gun...its the idiot behind it...This blog shouldn't even exist...unless the student "did not" have a gun as in a perfect union as our forefathers believed...period.
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  • 4/7/2010 5:35 PM Back When wrote:
    Jim, WTF? As you stated, the law is the law, kids cannot bring guns to school. Who even knows if the kid was 18 y/o. It really does not matter what kind of kid brought the gun to school it matters what moron could have gotten the gun at school, and I am just talking about the teachers, remember the teacher a few years ago who lived in Madisonand stabbed himself to death 48 times? Yea, that could happen. Jim you are also correct in if you do the crime...pay the time. The whole issue here is that a kid did do the crime and there was a coverup by Dyal and company and a selective enforcement of the rules based on the who the kid and his parents are in the community. I agree with you somewhat, but in this day we caannot enjoy some of the things that were enjoyed years ago and that includes taking guns to school,even in a car or truck. You have to admit the school shootings around the country have cause this, but with all of the mental defectives, like dumb and dumber you mentioned, in our school system it is a good thing. Yes we used to carry our guns in our trucks to school and yes our parents used to whip our behinds, and yes we had respect for elders, and yes we had teachers and school administrators worth their weight in gold back then. Well all that has changed and it goes like a Tim McGraw song "Back When". It is a good thing kids cannot bring guns to school, and our founding fathers could not imagine the world we live in today!
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  • 4/8/2010 2:54 PM i also am a school employee wrote:
    he got off light because of his daddy. i can write anything i want here and say i am anyone and say i work anywhere. what do you do at the school? how do you know this to be true?
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  • 4/8/2010 3:17 PM I am an employee also wrote:
    It is my understanding that this young man's case was handeled just like any other person that has had a gun at the schools, there have been several and all were with the same reason, no bullets, just left in the car or truck. Get over it you guy's this horse is dead and cannot be revived.
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    1. 4/8/2010 6:44 PM Taylor County Citizen wrote:
      Are you saying that students are regularly caught with guns on campus?
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  • 4/8/2010 5:40 PM hepcat wrote:
    there ya have it folks, straight from an employee at the highschool. handled just like any person. stop attacking this kid an his family. burn time.
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  • 4/9/2010 6:45 PM Were Number 1 In Something wrote:
    I am not as upset about the kid making a mistake with bringing a gun to school as I am about the Dyal and Company cover up that goes all the way to the school board members. What kind of message does this send to the students? Community? Others in the region? It sure is not a good reflection on the ethics of Dyal, his cronys and the school board. We are #1 in something, ethically challenged school administrators and school board. Now that is something to hang out hat on, thanks Dyal. Putz!
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  • 4/12/2010 3:54 PM hepcat wrote:
    you are all ridiculous. every last one of you.
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  • 4/12/2010 6:55 PM concernedparent wrote:
    Really, did anyone expect it to turn out any different its been this way for years. The only time procedures were followed was when our last super. had nothing to loose that year!!! After a few episodes with my child in tchs being bullied by a couple of kids then there parents. When the school employee told me this was a waste of her time, I knew then our kids safety is not a concern of theirs. This employee still works there!! Needless to say my child no longer attends this school, and neither will any of my other children!!
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  • 4/12/2010 7:29 PM Anonymous wrote:
    Thanks Dyal, you have made a mess and mockery of our school system. I hope you are happy and enjoy your "high five" after your retirement.
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