TCSD Employee Accountability
'Looking out for our children' starts the following:
Why isn't our School Superintendent looking out for our children's welfare more?
I read in the Booking Desk where the person who is now the JV & Co-Varsity Baseball Coach was booked on DUI and position of drugs. Well why or what is being Coached to our kids? (my son was told not to go out for baseball here because he did not have the talent.) The coaches did not want to many of my kind on the roaster. The Baseball Booster President knew of this coaches record and did not bring it up ( He is an elected official too, Property Appraiser/ elected by the people.) The coaches tell the Principles and Superintendent who will play and who will not play due to race, and who their parents are and how much money the parents have. I am glad my son changed his mind and choose another sport where he is equal under his coaches eyes. Why is it you have to be a perfect star to be included when only has beens are doing the picking. Who is managing the Coaching and fairness? This is a topic which should be discussed; "as to who chooses who is to mentor our kids"? These people are to be role models and examples not brow beaters, and only there so their son can play and not to train any other student. No student likes to be cursed at and called a no talent a_ _ or a S.O.B. as I have heard the TCHS coaches call their players during a game, curse the referees in front of the players, etc..
We wonder why our kids give up, and their attitude is bad. " Attitude reflects leadership"!
Leadership starts at the TOP too, when the Superintendent does not care and the other teachers see him bail out finance directors from jail, and let coaches have DUI and Drug charges, and gamble on school time, the teachers, give up on the system too, their " Attitude goes bad, because their Leadership has gone bad"
Oscar Howard may have been a less than perfect finance manager , but he kept his teachers in line. I would not exclude his play book on protecting the kids either.
Mr. Dyal's has not been the correct methods for good role modeling.
Parents: This is only our children's , morals, lives, decisions, mentoring ability toward other kids, their attitude toward us as parents. that these coaches and teachers hold in their hands.
" They will play like they are taught in practice, on the field and in life this is a proven fact" Get involved and say something.
Why isn't our School Superintendent looking out for our children's welfare more?
I read in the Booking Desk where the person who is now the JV & Co-Varsity Baseball Coach was booked on DUI and position of drugs. Well why or what is being Coached to our kids? (my son was told not to go out for baseball here because he did not have the talent.) The coaches did not want to many of my kind on the roaster. The Baseball Booster President knew of this coaches record and did not bring it up ( He is an elected official too, Property Appraiser/ elected by the people.) The coaches tell the Principles and Superintendent who will play and who will not play due to race, and who their parents are and how much money the parents have. I am glad my son changed his mind and choose another sport where he is equal under his coaches eyes. Why is it you have to be a perfect star to be included when only has beens are doing the picking. Who is managing the Coaching and fairness? This is a topic which should be discussed; "as to who chooses who is to mentor our kids"? These people are to be role models and examples not brow beaters, and only there so their son can play and not to train any other student. No student likes to be cursed at and called a no talent a_ _ or a S.O.B. as I have heard the TCHS coaches call their players during a game, curse the referees in front of the players, etc..
We wonder why our kids give up, and their attitude is bad. " Attitude reflects leadership"!
Leadership starts at the TOP too, when the Superintendent does not care and the other teachers see him bail out finance directors from jail, and let coaches have DUI and Drug charges, and gamble on school time, the teachers, give up on the system too, their " Attitude goes bad, because their Leadership has gone bad"
Oscar Howard may have been a less than perfect finance manager , but he kept his teachers in line. I would not exclude his play book on protecting the kids either.
Mr. Dyal's has not been the correct methods for good role modeling.
Parents: This is only our children's , morals, lives, decisions, mentoring ability toward other kids, their attitude toward us as parents. that these coaches and teachers hold in their hands.
" They will play like they are taught in practice, on the field and in life this is a proven fact" Get involved and say something.
Do you mean that the coach was hired despite having a criminal record? Or that the DUI charge came after he became a coach? Is this coach also an employee of the district?
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All good questions?
I was told yes to all.
Before the season JV coach arrested in ST.Johns county for assault on police officer and on girlfriend and disorderly conduct.
A couple of weeks ago arrested in Taylor County for DUI and Drugs ( see booking desk) and still being paid a supplement of 2500.00 for TCHS JV Base baseball coach & 1200.00 for co varsity head coach ( see non instructional suppliment schedule at administration building public record).
However Mr. Dyal should address this subject. Not only in just sports but in every department(finiance, Cheerleading sponsor, homecoming sponsors, people ABLE to do the job, not just get the free money ). Our children deserve to have mentors without any questions of such actions. We as parents must not accept such mentors, just so Techs can have a winning baseball or any sports season. Call and put pressure on Dyal NOW. Which is most important for our children. Actions like this is why kids move to the Aucilla school, private & charter schools, home schools and Mayo schools for a better education and character building lessons. and protection.
Our superintendent owes it to us tax payers to do something about this.
The wheel the squeeks the loudest gets the grease..( so yell) ... How important to our children to us? The newspaper is not going to headline theses actions, so we must.........................
If you do not say ANYTHING It shows you do not care.
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Your concerns seem valid--you should e-mail your questions to the superintendent, if you haven't already. Let us know his reply.
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I nealive most of the sponsors do a good job and do it for the service and helping mentor students not for the money. If you would use some common sense and divide the hours serviced / the time spent doing sponsorships you would see that money is not the motivating factor. Nobody outside the school district should be allowed to hold these jobs and that would solve this problem and hold them accountable to the school districts rules. But as long as you have corrupt school board members like Southerland then you will have these kind of faults within the so called public school system.
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Don't they have to pass backgound check's? I just thought they did.
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It's a never-ending tale....
How much longer does Dyal have?
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The way to handle these situations is to call the school board members and voice your discontent and request an investigation.Then request a response back.I agree there is no place for subjects like this around children.There is no place for a person male or female coaching kids in any sport period.I know for a fact the person in question constantly has deputies at his house to quell fights between him and his now wife.I know for a fact deputies have questioned him drunk after seeing him drive up in a vehicle and not arrested him for dui because he is a local coach.Thank god fhp doesnt deal with things like the sheriffs office.This man has no business being a coach.Make that call,I am.
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This type of "corruption" has been going on for years. Typically no-one cares as long as everyone is getting paid. The supplemental positions at the school board have always been spoils for the victorious. The main problem is that folks in trailer county do not seem to mind this when they go to the polls to vote, now you have questionable people in the courthouse hand-pick by former elected officials that will continue to oversee a corrupt election process. The judiciary has been corrupt for generations, now that cancer is spreading to all floors at the courthouse!
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I agree with you YouGetWhatYouVoteFor but what really was the purpose of referring to our town as "trailer county"? Coming from someone who grew up in TAYLOR COUNTY and still work and have my family here I am beyond offended! What exactly are you trying to infer about our town? Could you not make your point (which I beyond agree with) without downgrading people? Are you that above everyone else? I just wanted to point out that your opinion is very much in line with mine when looking at the election process and behind the scenes in Taylor County but your referral and derogatory remarks make you just seem like a shallow, nose in the air individual who just happened to put together a cohesive thought. Keep your comments about MY HOMETOWN to yourself. You just come across as an uneducated fool who can’t make a point without ruining it by being defamatory. All this written by someone who was RAISED and still lives in a TRAILER in TAYLOR COUNTY!
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Who is making fun of “trailer county” …. you mean besides your elected officials and county workers… the ones being voted in and paid by you? Please see power point with the “redneck condo” and hunter gatherer” photo/cartoon sent to the Florida Department of Community Affairs and you have the answer.
Well let me say that’s old news. The new nick name it seems is Pretend, Florida instead of Perry, Florida.
It goes like this, Oh here comes the leadership from Pretend, they pretend they don’t have problems; every thing is perfect in Pretend, Florida.
If you are sick, just pretend you are not. If the coach is a drunk just pretend he/she is not, if your school is falling pretend it is not, if your hospital, churches, low-income housing, school and senior citizens center is built over dumps just pretend they are not. If the poverty level is three times the unemployment levels and fifty years of economic development has not worked just pretend it did work.
It’s hard to be proud of a community/leadership (the pretenders) that does not care about the reputation of the community or quality of life for the citizens they serve. It really does not matter whether you live in a trailer or house. Thank you for standing up for the “good folks” of home.
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I agree with you also My Home too. The elected officials in Taylor County are pretenders and they have done little to nothing for the betterment of our community, schools, and economic development. I agree with you that they pretend on many many levels. What is your proposed action to right this wrongful way of life in Taylor County? Do you have a plan of action? I would love to hear it. Maybe on of those elected officials will read this and get a good idea from it. I'm just saying to EVERYONE instead of standing on the soapbox shouting about problems lets give ideas on this board to FIX them. Its sooooo easy to rant and rave about issues, but are YOU really willing to do anything personally about it? Anyone? .......
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Pretend: to make believe, play, imagine, act as if, make-up, imaginary, make- believe, and made up.
So when people laugh and say Pretend is close to Perfect it really is a play on words from the TV commercials. Sometimes truth and honesty is stated in a humorous way, it is not intended to offend, but to jokingly point out the obvious.
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In order to win or lose one must play the game, and you are right to say sitting on the side lines is not helping. The rants and raves shouted from soap boxes are corrective actions. Before one can fix a problem one must identify a problem. TCT may well be used to define issues/problems as put forth by concerned “hometown” people. What does the BM keep saying this is a place to take up issues for discussion?
Next step after defining the problem is to offer solutions, as with the suggestion to inform the present leadership of alternative solutions and “good ideas”. I believe that notion has been vetted on numerous occasions by multiple posts as futile and non-productive. Are the leadership boards listening? Who knows?
Another “good idea” is to re-set the boards with more citizen responsive leadership and for lack of better terms “new ideas and thinkers” as said loudly in the “rant” to vote’ em out. Another “good idea” which will require an informed populace/common people who understand the issues to support change (voters/citizens). The local “fair and balanced” is not going to tolerate transparency and full disclosure of issues before the boards with honest and factual press release items. Therefore TCT is an action step promoting issues identifications and corrective responses/actions through publishing/internet many “good ideas”.
Now last election day the change for Taylor County/new direction tickets failed to win or show a large support group but achieved a voting block large enough to turn any ballot casting into a good “game”. There are many of us excited about the election coming up so to the “good folks” thinking about throwing your hat into the ring, I say “go for it”. You may well be surprised at the outcome and Taylor County will be the true winner.
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Ok as i said earlier,pick up the phone and call your school board officials like i did.What i did find out was the board had a meeting last night where the issue was going to be discussed.Additionally,i learned the board attorney (ball)advised the board to take no action until this coach had his trial because as we all know he,s innocent until proven guilty.However,i suggested he be suspended without pay until the final ruling by the court.My opinion is he must be held at a higher standard because of his position and also added there must be a policy of employee conduct for teachers and coaches which should be enforced in this case which would justify any suspension.I offered this scenario that if a teacher or coach was accused of molestation and i emphasize (accused)would the board let them stay in place?of course not.They would be suspended pending an investigation wouldn't they? My point is stand up to the wrong and let your voice be heard.Hold the individuals in power accountable and either voice your complaint or support which ever the case may be.I did dissagree with the board attorney to Mr.Dyal.If you on this board do nothing,then dont complain when nothing is done.remember there is strength in numbers.
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I do not know who your school board member is...but what you are saying and what you are saying the school board member stated to you are not true. Either you are misrepresenting the facts of the school board member is not being truthful.
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I was sitting in the audience and listened to the whole meeting, nothing was said about a coach, and the atty did not say anything about the issue, who told you or what meeting did you go to because what you have stated is complete false. Maybe it is a way to stir or start wrong impressions on boards or people on boards. That is what is wrong with this site is that very rarely does the truth come out, just a bunch of gossip or here say, or just plain guesses about what was done or said. Now enough said on the matter, but get your facts before you talk or you may end up with mud in your face as you have now.
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No mud on this face.If you would have read my post you would have known that i talked to Mr.Dyal himself and thats where i got my information which i tried to pass on to the people that post here.If you were at the meeting then why didn't you stand up to be heard and voice your discontent with the situation instead of just throwing negative comments around.As i stated before let the people in charge know you have a complaint or offer up a solution.I did not get my facts wrong.my facts are correct.I have no control over Mr.Dyal not carrying out what he told me he was going to do.If in fact the issue was not brought up as you said then i am disappointed and the man has no credibility with me anymore.Maybe if more people like me called the man or other board members and voiced their concern then maybe things would change.
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I have been away, hey Perrydice, you did say you went to the meeting and then you said the atty Ball said to wait until the guy's hearing to make a move. None of that was discussed, You ask why did I not stand up and complain, well I did not go to complain, what I saw was a Board acting in a manner that shows respect, for each other and the people in the audience. Just because you go, does mean you have a complaint. You my friend seem to be the brother in law to Coaqch Carr, is that so? If it is then maybe you have a beef with him, but as you say, don't whine and cry, maybe sit down with him Man to whiner and talk it out like adult's. All you have done is critisize and complain, you haven't come to the meetings, if you did why did you not stand up and be heard. Maybe if you had then maybe people would know who you are and you cannot hide behind a computer, at least give Carr credit, he used his name...... Man up, and tell who you are and then call the man, maybe you will get the whole story.
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go back to sleep,or better yet read the previous post.you have shown your colors,you flop like a fresh caught mullet on just about all the issues here trying to play both sides of the field.Who,s not taking a stance here?And im the one who made the phone call Remember!If i had been at the meeting i would have stood up and brought the issue up.The issue here is should carr be coaching?I say no! but the powers to be in this county dont have the B---- to stand up for moral issues so there ya are.This county deserves what it gets.I wont be posting here again ever,however i like to read your double sided post so keep up the good work,hey maybe you and carr could discuss it over a beer!
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Perrydice,
First, I just got back to town last night and did not see your post in response, but read my post, by the way that was not me in the previous post, I am not trying to be critical of you, and you have a right to air your complaints on here, but direct slander at someone is not right. I think I have seen you at times around town, so I put 2 and 2 togeather, what I am saying is this, make your statement one time and be done with it. To make them over and over is not right to anyone, maybe he did wrong, let the system work that out. But like I said man up and talk dire3ct to him, not on a site that allows constant badgering of someone, that's why people will not discuss things on here is because of people who constant complain. So I am going back to sleep as you say, I have to work tonight, but think before you type, and things get done faster...
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My name is Richard Carr and I am the JV head coach. I did get a dui after I was hired and it is very embarassing and I have spoken to the players about this. I have not been arrested for any drug charges, assualt on a police officer or disorderly conduct. I defended myself in a situation in another county and will let the legal system take care of it. I am not making 2500.00 for coaching jv and 1500.00 for asst. varsity coach. I make less than that for JV and absolutely nothing for asst. varsity coach. I have 14 players on the JV team, with 3 of those having no prior school baseball experience at any level, there were no cuts made period. There is not anyone calling any player a no talent___ or an sob or anything close to it. I have coached at this level for 6 years. Ask any of my former players about me at any time. I don't know who started all of this stuff as this is my first and more than likely my last time at this site. I do know that my ex brother in law callled the varsity head coach about the dui. I don't know why as he does not have a child or a grandchild playing or close to playing. I made a mistake and am owning up to it and will try and turn a negative into a positive by educating these kids on the dangers and repercussions of drinking and driving. If any of you want to talk to me personally by phone or in person I will be more than happy to do so. I will not use this forum to throw dirt on my accuser but make no mistake dirt could be thrown. The only difference between myself and my accuser and many others is I got caught. For me it was a wake up call from god and I will be better for it.
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Thank you for your willingness to respond to this and present your side of the story.
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It takes a real man to do what you have done by coming on here Richard, and for that I say thank you, I hope with God's guidence you can overcome this, Thanks Again.
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I appreciate you sincereity Mr. Carr. You likely are a fine person. You are correct in you statement "only difference between myself and my accuser and many others is I got caught". Many folks in our communtiy don't get "caught" and the others have a "buddy" in the courthouse. Good luck to you and God Bless You. Do not take it all personally, many folks are fed up with the school system and when there is an issue related to the school system is just appears to take a life of its on. Thank Dyal and company for that! I will keep you in my prayers.
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Oh whooo is me,please.First of all you did get arested for disorderly conduct ,resisting arrest, and domestic battery along with the later dui.oh,nice booking photo from st.johns county sheriffs department too.Just because you "got caught: as you put it doesnt mean people who think you should do the right thing and step down do or have done what you have, so dont put us in your league.you are supposed to be a role model,I dont think what you have done is being a role model.If this were any other county you would have been sent down the road already for conduct unbecoming a county employee.But it appears you have a fan club here to not only support you but also condone this behavior.I dont know which is scarier,you or your followers thinking this is ok.I can tell you this Richard carr,you will never coach any of my grandkids buddy!
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Perrydice seems to have some inside information on this subject, why not just tell the whole story.
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Well despite all of the discussion, school board employees, managers and directors should be held to a higher standard. Zero tolerance for conduct unbecoming of such high standards. Anything less takes away from the district's reputation in the community and in the region. It also does not give the kids reason to be proud of the school system and does not set a good example for the students. Another failing of the Dyal and company ship of fools! In light of the Jessica Lundsford Act, any school district employee is held up to high standards as the applicants for openings are. Would a perspective employee, a vendor, or any other person be allowed on school property per the Lundsford Act? Domestic violence arrest? Battery arrest? Drug and alcohol arrest? Civil matter arrest? Dyal and company know the rules set out by the Lundsford act, why are they not enforcing a state law? More of selective enforcement of cronys? Kind of like helping a golfing buddy's kid off campus when a gun is brought to school. Way to go Dyal!
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Bottom line, is there a policy that covers Mr. Carr's situation? If there is the policy should be followed. Follow policy for everyone and the public doesn't have to question anyones integrity (Paul Dyal). The commentors on this blog have gotten way too emotional and I know it is hard not to when children are involved, but the Taylor County School District have policies and they should be followed. Then no questions can be asked.
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When I saw "TCSD Employee Accountability" I thought you were talking about the sheriff's department. From what I am hearing, there is a bigger problem there than with the schools. As long as you are a person with a little rank there, you can do all kind of stuff and get away with it. If you are a lowly worker bee then you get in trouble for everything.
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It's easier to challenge the school district than the sheriff's department. For one thing, nearly everything the school district does is subject to scrutiny under sunshine laws. Sheriff's offices aren't completely exempt from those laws, but there are more exceptions with them. It's a lot easier to find out about the inner workings of the school district than the sheriff's department.
Additionally, the school district has regular public board meetings during which attendees have the opportunity to raise concerns about issues. The sheriff's office doesn't have anything like this.
Then, of course, there's the fact that most people don't want to be labelled a troublemaker by the local law enforcers. That could bring you a lot more grief than being labelled a troublemaker by the school board would.
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The problem with employee accountability is that when the boss is away most of the time, employees do not hold themselves accountable. Dyal is gone a lot of the time and really does not provide leadership when he does come to his office. It would be different if Dyal had a management team that was worth three cents.
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Well, I am always amazed at the 12 month, admisitrative and support staff in the district office and at some of the school sites that appear to think that they are 10 month, 7.5 hour a day employees. You look at the district office, school sites and other offices on a Friday, the day before a holiday, or other days when 10 month employees are off and you see all of these adminstrative 12 month employees taking off as they were 10 month employees. It really is stealing time, stealing resources from our kids and fraud perpetrated on the tax payer. Dyal and the powers to be should put a stop to this criminal activity and public service worker fraud.
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Is Dyal in his office this week? Was he out for a week or more recently? How can Dyal keep up with the get out of jail free cards and bail requests from his staff if he is always gone? He must have the bail bondsman on retainer. Way to go Dyal, we knew you were dynamic and always think ahead!
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My travels take me past the administrative offices on a fairly regular basis, and I almost always see his truck parked out front.
I've been critical of some of Mr. Dyal's decisions, but I don't think he's skipping work to go fishing or play golf. Although if he did so every once in a while, I wouldn't begrudge him; it still wouldn't make up for the extra hours put in attending every board meeting and school shindig that comes down the pike.
Lest I be accused of favoritism, I'd say the same thing about Oscar. I was no fan of his, but I know there likely wasn't a week (outside of Christmas break) that he put in under 40 hours--and more than that most weeks.
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I would respectively disagree on both counts, Oscar and Dyal. Unless he (DYAL) has used a leave slip on "Christmas break" he is not entitled and is setting a bad example fr his subordinates. I doubt Oscar filled out a leave slip for every fish fry, funeral, ect...and likely retired with thousands of dollars in his pocket of accrued leave. The same could be said for members of the judiciary and others in the courthouse. I guess if an individual is elected he has a license to steal time. An administrative employee who is on an annual 12 month contract is not entitled to the same days off as an 11th month employee, a 12 month employee or other OPS-type of employee. I would bet that the super's job requires more than 40 hours and that does not include the travel made on numerous trips. That goes for a lot of the folks in the gal pal club.
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This blog is poison. It's disgusting and does absolutely nothing to boost morale for this pathetic excuse for a community. It seems like someone was trying to do something positive by starting it, but just like usual in Perry, the people there can't seem to keep it "nice". I came here because I was told how sickening and sad it is and I had to see for myself. I no longer live in Taylor County and I thank god that I do not. I thank god that I will not have to raise a family there, or work there or face life there on a daily basis. How sad it is that seemingly no one has anything better to do then run their mouths, and run people's name in the dirt, and bitch, and complain about problems that they will never help solve. Oh, and don't bother attacking me because I won't be back to check, I won't waste my time hiding behind a computer screen and making punk comments and speculations about people I don't even know...except all of you of course =)
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I think you are wrong whether you ever acknowledge this or not. I find that people in Perry are engaging in more types of media exposure new ideas and some come from this web-site. People are talking about issues never discussed without challenges from people who feel harmed by content exposure. A lot of people complain about arm chair quarter backing and tell alls make everyone uncomfortable, I agree it’s a little nutty and smutty at times, but that’s just Taylor County style. After all the same could be said about the booking desk in local paper.
A topic comes up on TCT, once it is introduced every one understands Google search dot com. Try it with your telephone number to see results be sure to include ( “ ) at beginning and end (“000-000-000”) it works on ?s and sentences. The topic exploration and information is easily accessed and every body has the ability to research. Internet researchers are kinda like lawyers in Tallahassee every other person is one. I agree this makes argument difficult and opinions easily debunked. It also tracks where information shows up on other websites and links that give a bigger picture scope and range of interest. Data collection personal interest and data mining/tracking public and private are built into and used for a variety of reasons.
I think TCT is a valuable discussion tool no different than the letter to editor pages in paper copy news print across the country. As for “hiding behind computers”, in a community where many topics are never discussed for fear of character attacks and having to deal with the ranting and shouting and ugly remarks to avoid addressing real issues, I say anonymity breeds open honest discussion and contempt.
Heck TCT is one stop on the communications super highway, so lighten up and enjoy the ride, learn something. If all else fails you can always play “Farmville”.
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I think this blog is great. Just imagine the folks who do not post comments but read the blog, it has to be hundreds of folks. Some comments are caustic and may hurt feelings, but you have to agree that this is the only place for the Paul Harvey version of what passes for media coverage in our community. I think this blog is kind of like sausage, we all love it but do not want to see how it is made or necessarily like everything in it individually. LOL. Kudos to the blog moderator and all those who comment on the short comings and facts left out of the local media. People of our community are frustrated with our local media, our local "leaders and many things that need to change for the betterment of our community. If you cannot see that by the comments, well...you are likely part of the problem. Bouya!
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You are wrong when you compare this to the letters to editor, because there you have to belly up and sign your name, here you all can hide behind your screen, good thing they make bigger and bigger monitors, that way no one will know who you are, haha.
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Well "wrong", I know for a fact that the local media has cronys call folks who send "letters" to influence the content or the printing of such letters you appear to see as noble. This blog as far as I can see does not do that and also does not take advertising dollars as protection money for such "letters" or comments.
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Also look at perrydice, once someone figured out who he was, he ran out back and hid, and said I will not post again. Dead give away guy.
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Well Richard Carr told the ball players and that is more then I can say for some around. The kids like him and I go to every-game and have never heard a parent talk about Richard or have a concern with it. So if the kids and parents are ok with it then Leave Richard alone.He is not the only person in the school district that has had issues. He made a mistake and he has own up too it. Go Bulldogs!
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Word on the street: Jan Walker can't make it as a principal so when Clyde Cruce retires in June, she will take his place and once again be under Paul Dyal. She flourished as his Assistant Principal but has floundered as Principal of TCES. Let's see - she's been there four years. First year - GREAT! Second year - starting to struggle. Third year - struggling. Fourth year - floundering. Heard that she treats her staff with disdain unless they are the chosen few, and you know who you are and who you aren't. No wonder so many teachers take R&R days during the school year. Heard they probably won't make the grade AGAIN after FCAT! Guess some leaders are better followers.
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Dyal has more cronys than Walker, I would bet on KiKi or some other person without the experience needed. Dyal will just re-write the job description to fit some crony's limited experience. Heck, Cruce did not have the right experience and has cost the district tens of thousands of dollars with his incompetence. You can say one thing, Dyal will be consistent with the mis-management of the appointee for the personnel dept.
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You are so right. But Walker has more history with Dyal than KiKi which may account for her appointment. Everyone knows, it doesn't matter who applies, the powers that be (Dyal) already knows who is going to fill Clyde's chair. A great example would be Jim Brannen. How does he get selected over Horace McLeod who was a former director of a technical school in south Florida. Dyal apparently doesn't want the best people. He only wants people he can control. Dyal, you are a joke as a leader. If you serve more than one term, the people in this community ... well enough said.
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Amen to that wha..wha..wha . We deserve more honesty as tax payers and the students deserve more of a leader. It is no wonder they turn to drugs and crime with all of the fine examples at the district level. I bet one of those "Gal-pals" in the administrative office is postering for job as well. I think Dyal should go out of the box and hire a qualified personnel director, maybe one of the problems is that it will be advertised in-house before anyone outside the district can apply. The list of nut-house, I mean in-house applicants has to be as long as the list of Dyal's bad decisions since being in the Super's chair. What a complete disappointment Dyal has become, I wish there would have been a better candidate for the position, a candidate we all could have faith in, faith in the administration and the education of the children of our county.
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Taylor Countians are a funny breed aren't we? You can go on one thread and Jack Brown is being ripped for hiring outside of local and here Paul Dyal is being ripped for just the opposite. Is there any pleasing you people?
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No there is no pleasing the 8 or 9 people who complain on here, it's all they have in life. Complain, Bitch and Moan. It's there only thing to do, they must be so miserable.
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TCT bloggers I only have one question
How do ya make’em whine?
By telling the rest of the story! LOL
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Is on comment representative of the whole county or a cross section of the county or of all bloggers? I think not. The great thing about this blog is that everyone and anyone can post their feeling or give their input unlike other media in the county. I personally give kudos to Brown for the "outside hire" and wish Dyal would follow suit. Sometimes their is not the right or qualified person locally or "in-house". Brown appears to not suffer from the same affliction as Dyal and I believe Brown had an interview committee composed of a diverse background, something Dyal would not have the mindset to do or the ethics to accomplish given the cronyism exhibited to date. Kudos to all of the bloggers and their comments, even IN OUR FACE's comment! Eight or Nine bloggers? Many other readers! This is becoming the unbiased unfiltered news source for Taylor County! You want see any advertisers buying themselves off of the blog comments will you! Shout out to Don! LOL!!!!
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An interview committee--including members from outside of Taylor County--was used by the school district when they hired a new person to run TTI. I believe board policy says this is required for filling top positions; it just wasn't done in the past.
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I thought this was a place that people could voice their opinion, right, wrong, or indifferent. We can agree to disagree on any and all subjects. Me personally, well, I voted for Dyal because he talked good game. However, like most politicians, until in office, politicians will tell the people what they want to hear. Once in office, its a totally different story. Hence, the local charlatans, potentates, and chronys.
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I doubt a policy was followed, maybe a member of the consortium of post-secondary schools in the region, but a doubt that as well. I am not saying that Dyal did not hand-pick an indiviual to sit in a seat. I have a few words for Dyal and I will say them slowly: (1) P-R-O-C-U-R-E-M-E-N-T P-O-L-I-C-I-E-S AND P-R-O-C-E-D-U-R-E-S (2) P-E-R-S-O-N-N-E-L P-R-O-C-E-D-U-R-E-S AND P-O-L-I-C-I-E-S (3) F-L-O-R-I-D-A C-O-M-M-I-S-S-I-O-N ON E-T-H-I-C-S AND THE S-U-N-S-H-I-N-E L-A-W (4) G-E-N-E-R-A-L A-C-C-E-P-T-E-D A-C-C-O-U-N-T-I-N-G P-R-O-C-E-D-U-R-E-S, (5) S-E-P-A-R-A-T-I-O-N OF D-U-T-I-E-S. Dyal I know these are big words.
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now that is funny LOL!
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I feel bad for our community and children, what appeared to be a great new start for our school district has gotten derailed by the same old ways that caused the district to get in dire financial shape, low employee moral and questionable actions by the school district administration. The selective adhering to the disipline matrix when a crony's son is involved (bringing a deer rifle to school) really is the final straw. I say if Dyal was a good man he would take that kid who shot the bus with a BB gun and take that kid under his wing and become the kid's mentor. Everyone knows the kid needs help and a community "leader" like Dyal could be the one to make a difference in the kid's life, I know someone will say, "why don't you mentor the kid", and that is a good point, however Dyal is strtegically place to help the kid in school and in the community. Come on Dyal make a difference in just one kid's life while you are getting that "high five" retirement bump. Treat him like one of your cronys, crony's kids or other charlatan you run with. It seems to work with all of the other aspects of you school administration.
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What has law enforcement done to the parent of the child who shot the window of the school bus with a bb gun? What has happened to the student?
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I think the point has been made that the BB gun bandit's parents are in jail or in a bad way, hence the problems at school and home. The point also has been made that Dyal and others with the school system should mentor, if there ever was a case to mentor this troubled student, this student. I guess if this troubled student took up golf, drinking and all that goes with that (you know) Dyal may take up some interest. As far as law enforcement and parents, I would like to know what law enforcement has done to the parents of the kid who brought the rifle to school, oh I forgot, Dyal ran interference for this kid, using school staff and others to get the kid and gun off campus before the law could get there. You have to wonder why Dyal would help one kid and not another? Golf? Cronyism? Drinking? Adultry?
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Wear my shoes for one day, and then see if you can find something to complain about. You know this is in the bible, maybe that's what alot of you need to do, read the lord's word, not spreading the devil's words. Just a thought.
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It's adultery everywhere. Local politicians, lawyers, elected officials, board members, chamber, schools, law enforcement, on and on. Trailer county needs a TV talk show or a State/Fed shake up. Maybe both.
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"wear my shoes" you need to go to wal-mart and get you some new flip-flops. I understand and respect your point, but the truth is, we have the devil and his ilk running te school house and it is no wonder the financial management, management of the kids and programs is in a mess. "Shoes" if you are one of the gal-pals or a devil at the schoolhouse, you need to just go home!
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No I am not a gal pal as you say, and I do not work for the school, I am a stay at home mom, who happened to look at this site because everyone at church yesterday in my Sunday school class was complaining of all the hate that is spewed from this site, just think WWJD, then make your comments
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Jesus would call out all of the charlatans and potentates like he did the money changers polluting the temple like they are polluting our community and school system. Are you one of those Glenn Beck fans who hates Jesus? Jesus would be looking for social justice and helping the poor. The truth hurts and hurts even more when you are "caught".
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Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you do criticize him, you'll be a mile away and have his shoes.
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I like the way you talk, now pass me those french fried potatoes and mustard and the potted meat. You are funny, funny ha ha, not funny queer.
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Remember when the Superintendent of school is elected and the school board is elected neither one can tell the other what to do, the school board needs to appoint a superintendent that there is some accountability
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The school board could publically sanction a super. Dyal is so smart he is sending the seniors on a cruise to Mexico when the US state department and others advise against going to mexico for any reason during the worst violence in history of mexican tourism. Way to go Dyal, I hope our students and chaperones return unharmed!
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The parent’s sponsor the cruise to Mexico. That is in NO WAY affiliated or sponsored by the school or Dyal. Dyal has nothing to do with the cruise to Mexico. The parents plan, fundraise, and partake in the drunken fest with their children on the senior cruise. I speak from experience on mine and many other senior cruises I have been on.
The seniors go to New York on the school sponsored trip.
You must get your so-called facts where a lot of these other posters do. Shame on you that you didn’t look into this enough before posting....because you are 100% wrong.
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Dyal should show some leadership and stop the madness. Well, as a parent I would not brag about the "drunk-fest". Is this the trip students who get in trouble go on? Dyal planned or not-Mexico is a bad idea. If Dyal wanted to stop it he could, also don't school board members and their children and other elected officials go on this "drunk-fest"? What a shame, these folks have such poor morals and ethics at home, I would hate to see what they act like away from home! I bet the school has some involvement in the cruise, heck you know they plan and plan at school and on school time. I would not send the seniors to New York either. There are a lot of places that the students could go, a lot of places more students could afford to go, more inclusive and less false eliteism.
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The school has zero involvment in the senior cruise. They got out of that business a long time ago due to the liability issues. Too much risky behavior going on.
I don't see how the superintendent could stop it even if he wanted to. School funds aren't involved, and the event is held when school is closed. The superintendent doesn't have much authority to regulate what students do in their free time.
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You know, you must either be an IDIOT or just plain stupid. First Dyal has nothing and can do nothing to or about the Parent Sr. trip. I know the board member you are referring to and he nor his wife, and the 2 kids he is taking drink, why don't you get your facts staight before you make STUPID statements on a public forum. The Blogman ought to censer these types of comments. Just plain stupid.
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You must know them very well indeed, to assure us that neither they, not their children drink. Your very positive about the kids too, is that right, you know for a fact that the people in question aren't going to have a cocktail with their meals, because that too is drinking. Now bring on the chorus of minions, shouting the virtues of their high school buddies.
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Well the super can (1) intercede when a student has a gun on campus the law is called, (2) violate procurement policies, (3) violate personnel policies, (4) do all sorts of under the table maneuvering for cronys, and (5) lord knows what will come to light over the next 6 months. You just are not giving Coach Dyal enough credit. LOL!!! I want to hear about all of the drinking and other wild behavior!
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Would you give the details that you have on how Paul Dyal could stop the private trip of the seniors and their families? I would like you to use all your wisdom and knowledge on this.
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The minions of the potentates and charlatans are striking again! LOL! These folks are so trifling, to the minions, the potentates and charlatans do not value your devotion. You are not a part of their club! LOL!
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TCHS taught our leaders....that explains a lot. Add that along with the indoctrination of retardlicanism, an elitist mentality, a sense of entitlement and a whole lot of ethically challenged behavior. These "leaders" are nothing more than donkeys with their heads in the public feed trough since their businesses are failing. I often laugh at these folks in our community that work at buckeye or have businesses and still are guided by their greed and have to exist on a local tax-payer - government check, nothing more than welfare for the potentates as they get a check out the front door and make "donations" and sell stuff with bid-fixing in the back door.
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What I find curious about Taylor County is that everyone thinks they have a contact in the courthouse to help them out, when in reality they have a corrupt system. Please don’t bang off the wall over that statement. This is not, and I repeat it is not a personal attack on anyone, it is simply pointing out the obvious the over all system is corrupt. The system is manipulated and the outcomes/results are influenced and this is accepted and appreciated, in fact one might say rewarded. No clear set rules, guidelines, and standards is an easily manipulated system through human influence thus making an unequal/unfair system of rules and guidelines. The system no longer functions on principle and becomes a personalities contest. A system without controls will allow whims of others to become the rule of law.
A fair statement of reality in Taylor County is this type of system places the public in a position of servitude. The citizen must yield power to the powerful and is then forced by circumstance to request, plead, and beg before the powers that be, knowing without influence the outcomes will be not be in their favor and could be severe.
As children we are taught that unfair systems are unacceptable in example, team sports the rules must apply to all equally and this is a lesson that persons working in the corrupt system and service recipients would do well to remember. The reason all efforts to improve our town/county seem to fail again and again may well be the unpleasant result of the overall corrupt system.
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Sad to say that you are 100% totally correct! Everybody has a "buddy" in the courthouse. The failure of improvement in our community is directly tied to these corrupt potentates and charlatans!
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This a lawless community with everyone wanting their pass. Thanks potentates and charlatans! It is your deeds that are coming home to roost and s**t in our nest!
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And we go on and 0n and on and on, again and again and agian and again. Whine whine whine, complain, complain, complain.
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I read some good advice on here that said
Take ur hands off ur ears and put them over ur mouth b/c at present u have a listening problem. Take up the whines and complaints and do something about the issues besides criticizing people for voicing concerns. The people r talking and u are not listening again and again and again. What r u doing besides whining and griping?
The only time u should look down on others is when u are reaching down ur hand to help them up.
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Speaking about accountability...is anyone aware of the crony maneuvering Dyal and company did this evening? Apparently the grant writer (position) who has been so vital has now been eliminated and replaced with some type of position and scheme with the retirement of Clyde Cruce. It is funny how these same unqualified cronys seem to rise to the top year after year. The school board made these Dyal schemes a reality with no discussion. What a joke. What is the 411 on all of this?
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If the board didn't discuss the matter at the meeting, then one must conclude that either (1.) they discussed the issue outside of the meeting or (2.) they're uninterested in why these changes were made.
Option 1 would mean they broke the law.
Option 2 would mean their competence is questionable.
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Shout out to Taylor County Citizeen! You are right. I am sad to say both options are on the table! Same old doings by these folks. They better watch out this fall during election time. All the relatives and cronys in the courthouse, absentee ballots, and questionable business dealings cannot keep them safe in office forever. Dyal stated that the district will begin the year with a conservative $600,000 in the red. But he is making the changes to ensure his cronys have jobs. I thought is was vital to have this grant writer, Oscar established the position saying it would be funded with grant funds, never was funded with grant funds to the tune of $50,000 ++ a year, now let's move the grant writer to a new position for $60,000 ++ a year. What experience does this person have in personnel matters? What credentials has this person got? Oh, Dyal covered that in the new job description. I wonder how all of these administrative tranfers and positions are created and filled without advertising the positions. I am sure we have a lot of folks in our community unemployed that would apply and may have appropriate experience and credentials. Who would imagine that Dyal could find a qualified person outside his circle of gal-pals? I see an AG letter in the future. Dyal...who you gonna call...ghost busters! LOL Putz! Come on minons, shoot the messenger!
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But as I recall, the grantwriter was appointed under Oscar Howard; I'm not sure she'd qualify as a Dyal crony. He must like what he has seen of her work since becoming superintendent, though.
I'm not saying that the personnel shuffle is right or wrong--just that it strikes me as odd that the board would approve it without asking any questions. But I've made my position on that clear in the past; I'm reasonably confident that board members regularly and illegally discuss issues outside of public meetings. But until the voters decide they've had enough, the board will continue operating the way they always have.
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Those gal-pals in the super's office all play their cards well with Dyal. I think the grant writer is great at self promoting and little else. I would like to see Dyal's "fuzzy math" on this how he is saving the district money on this reorganization. It appears Clyde Cruce is getting a Ken Olsen (former TTI Director) type consulting contract for a period of time as well. In light of the budget shortfalls noted by Dyal, it would behoove Dyal to do a little more thinking / calculating and a lot less pandering to cronys. DYal doesn't appear to much of an administrator, but more of an Oscar-light, without the folksy charm. He is still moaning about the loss of Vince Dorman as it relates to institional knowledge, now that is a hoot!!! LMAO!!!
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Keep Clyde Cruce around? What for?
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And this is why we need to elect new board members.
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Yeap...Get them all out. Just like Washington. Vote for change. Uh-oh...maybe knowing what I have is better than "changing" and throwing a dream away...
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It is sad the way the school board and Dyal act. The cronyism, the talking and violating sunshine law, the talking to parents and others on matters to come before the school board. The administrative office is a 21st century ole boys club composed of men and wo....men that are all scratching each others backs. Dyal and company have hit another on out of the park and into someone's hip pocket! Seveal folks on this blog predicted what Dyal would do, he is so simple and predictable.
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hoping to see some new faces on the school board after this election year. how about you?
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I hope their are some new faces. The tired faces there now do little to maintain their fudiciary responsibility. Quite the fraud.
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you are quite right. go back in time, accounting mistakes made by the current finance director, received as budget woes rather than double accounting should have been dealt with harshly to that one person rather than all the school employees collectively. The next time you see the school board member for your district, ask him or her how much time have they spent in the classroom. proctoring during fcat doesn't count.
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Something smells rotten in Taylor county. Hmmmm....could it be Dyal proving he only needs to be in office one term. Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive... Jan Walker is the new Human Resources Director. She left TCES last Friday and is working with Clyde to learn the job. OKAY PEOPLE... did Dyal or the board follow their own hiring policies? Aren't ALL vacant position supposed to be advertised for seven days so interested parties could submit an application? Don't remember seeing that position advertised, does anyone else? Let's see the relationship between Jan and Paul - she was his assistant principal before becoming the principal at TCES. Her first year there, TCES="A" school, but has steadily gone down. The end of her 3rd year, TCES="C" school. I heard the morale of her staff was in the toilet. She may have been the only one shedding tears last Friday when she left. Shelley Strickland is now in the driver's seat. Ok, let's look at her leadership record. Ran Steinhatchee School like a dictator, had staff ready to mutiny, and now she's in charge at TCES? Then, Chris Olson, former grant writer, earning hmmmmm... $50K, moved into Ms. Paulk's position handing insurance and retirement issues. Same salary? What about Jan Walker? Principal salaries are at the top of the scale. Since Jan is not a principal, does she retain her principal salary? Sylvia Ivey did! Izell Montgomery did! I imagine Clyde Cruce did too! So, where is the waste and the excessive spending????? Not at the instructional and non-instructional level, that's for sure. Of course, then there are the FAVORS at the middle and high school - Kiki Puhl, principal, Suzanne Bassett and Ann Joiner, Assistant principals. WRONG - Ann and Suzanne didn't meet the qualification criteria for assistant principal so they are TEACHERS ON SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT. If we thought Oscar was bad, Dyal makes Oscar look like a choir boy. Board members-DO YOUR RESEARCH, stop rubber stamping everything told to you. Read your board packets BEFORE you get to the meeting. Do something for your constituents and stop lining your own pockets. Surely, as Buckeye employees and business owners, you don't need the $25,000 you earn a year as a board member. Based on your track record, you are certainly overpaid.
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Interesting.
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The salaries of administrators are published in the newspaper each year when their contracts are renewed. As I recall, principals' salaries aren't the highest; directors are the ones who make the most money. There are three director positions, according to the district's website: Director of Personnel, Director of Instruction, and Director of Finance. A principal who moves into a director position would get a raise.
Administrative positions don't fall under the union, and thus are exempt from union rules. This includes rules about advertising. The superintendent can put whomever he or she wants in those jobs.
However, back when they were looking for a new person to run TTI, it came out that the district has a policy on how to search for principals (not all administrators--just principals). Look back through some of the older messages on this board for details--the district's policy says it will use on a selection committee that includes people from outside of the county. That's how Jim Brannan got the job running TTI.
Anyhow, it sounds like Clyde Cruce isn't going away. Someone posted here a few days ago that he was going to be sticking around, the same way Ken Olsen did after "retiring." So I guess there will be two Directors of Personnel? Does anyone know why? And at what cost to the district?
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LOL...you can sugar coat it all you want, sounds more like political spin to me. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Jan was failing in her current position, so move her to where she can do the least damage. As in most decisions the board makes, hmmmm.... let's see, Ms. Paulk is moving to the position of receptionist, Ms. Olson is moving to insurance/retirement, WHO IS moving to Ms. Greene's position? She's retiring. I am sure they have already made that decision. TCC - you addressed the "principal to director" salaries, but what about "principal to teacher" transfers. Do you really think Sylvia Ivey had a reduction in salary when she went from being the principal in Steinhatchee to teaching at the Middle School? Why did they rename the TTI director to what "coordinator" or some flunky name so the district would not have to pay the BIG salary to Jim Brannan that they had to Ken Olsen. There is NO WAY Jim Brannan was more qualified than Horace McLeod. Sugar coat all you want. Administrators are on annual contract so they sell their soul to the devil to keep their jobs, the devil being Dyal and all the superintendents before him. Who will save D. Gray now that Jan is gone. A poor performer and a joke as a teacher. No worry D. Gray, all Jan has to do is move you around until you find your niche. You need a job with minimal responsibility, no paperwork, banker's hours, allows you to sleep on the job, and earn extra money coaching. Shelley will probably follow Jan's lead - keep him because well, that's what they do! Forrest Gump said it best, "stupid is as stupid does." What does that say about our elected officials and leaders?
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Stop it, Mrs Walker cares about the children of Taylor County and that is more than most of the need a job/fill a position so called educators of this community. If you must complain and whine ask yourself this why didn’t we all grow up on T G Lee in other words why has Basset held the milk contract for local schools with out competitive bid for thirty/forty years? What about tracking for no compete vendors? There is enough blame to go around in trailer county. Get real/ get right or shut up blah,blah,blah.
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I think it is downright comical that you people can sit here and bash every aspect of our school system!! ….do any of YOU work for the school system? You seem to have SO MUCH insight. Wonder how? Do any of YOU have a better plan then throwing around the words “cronies” and “trailer county”? You honestly sound like a bunch of snot nosed school kids kicking and screaming but when it comes right down to it you are not willing to take ANY action to fix any of these problems you seem to obsess about!!! Do any of YOU think YOU would be better at running this school system then any of the power in place (current or before)? I mean you all seem to have such GRAND ideas on how this system should flow so seamlessly. Please then by all means run for the next open seat. I’d love to see YOUR name bashed on his blog next.
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"I think it is downright comical that you people can sit here and bash every aspect of our school system!! ….do any of YOU work for the school system?"
I say this in reply.
Excuse me, you are ugly, disrespectful and obviously arrogant "You people" my dog shows better people skills than that and leadership skills as well.The locals may not run for office but you just run your mouth to accomplish nothing. Keep it to yourself.
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You do not need to be an employee of the school system to see and know about the mis-management and fraud that goes on by the school board and Dyal and company. Some time ago a blogger posted on this blog information about Honest services fraud and that is just what the school board and Dyal are guilty of, Like Oscar and the same school board. Honest services fraud refers to an addendum to 18 U.S.C. §1346 (the federal mail fraud and wire fraud statute), added by the United States Congress in 1988,[1] which states: "For the purposes of this chapter, the term, scheme or artifice to defraud includes a scheme or artifice to deprive another of the intangible right of honest services."[2]
The statute has been applied by federal prosecutors in cases of public corruption as well as in cases in which private individuals breached a fiduciary duty to another, like tax-payers, students and the community.
Just plain ole trailer county unethical conduct that has exisited in the school system for some time. The recent personnel items are just the most recent example.
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U go don't bad mouth locals. It needed to be said
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As a matter of fact I DO WORK for the school system! So thank you very much. I do know what I am talking about when I bash the powers that be. I have every right to complain and know that if you are part of the chosen few, you don't have to play by the same rules. I see good teachers not hired back because they didn't agree with those in authority. I see poor performers stay year after year after year because they are either related to someone and their appointed to their positions because its at the principal's discretion. So why was Kiki Puhl appointed to the principal position at TCMS rather than advertising the position? See there's a whole lot more that goes on behind the scenes and behind closed doors than you know. I could go on but why bore you? Besides you are going to believe what you choose to believe.
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You are right Rose. It is the ship of fools led by Dyal and company. The bad part is the ongoing cronyism is hitting all time high levels. There are a lot of great school district employees like you, unfortunately, we have elected folks for the school board and superintendant who lack good ethics, financial ability - ability to follow general accepted accounting principles, ability to conduct their actions with fiduciary responsibility, ability to set policy and vote on issues in the "sunshine" and the ability to follow set policy, law and stnadards set by the state board of education. It is no wonder we have several generations of students who do not follow the rules and laws in day to day life, especially when community "leaders" skrit the law at every turn.
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Just curious Rose as to which 'good' teachers were not hired back? I was under the impression that all the teachers were hired back. And to "Anonymous" you responded to Rose by writing: "There are a lot of great school district employees like you." How do you know Rose is a "great school district employee?" Did Rose tell you that she was a great employee? LOL! Because I would think if Rose was such a "great" employee she (assuming Rose is a she) wouldn't be bashing the entire school district from the supt.& school board all the way down to the elementary school staff on a public website. Just seems a little spiteful to me. Although I'm sure it's obvious to everyone that Rose didn't get a position that she thought she deserved, her know-it-all hateful rants are an embarrassment to me as a citizen of Taylor County & as a mother of children in the Taylor County school district.
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Another, are you one of those "gal-pals" at the district office. Everyone has not had the same "opportunities" as some of you gal-pals. You gal-pals have sure worked you way into things through cronyism, "favors" and other things that cannot be mentioned. The old saying is that the sun will shine on you some day will happen.
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I'm a big fan of this forum because it can help shed light on things that typically stay in the dark. People on the inside of government agencies, local organizations, businesses, etc. can help those of us on the outside to understand what's going on.
But one thing I see happen too often (and I'm not singling you out--a number of people have done this) is that folks will post vague accusatory comments. Light innuendo that, frankly, the rest of us just don't understand.
If anyone has specific knowledge of specific wrongdoing involving specific people, then by all means post it. Let the sun shine.
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If this is happening as stated then... where is the union in all this???...Isn't it the union's duty to keep its agreement to these concerns addressed as to the contract??? Did any of you with your "gripes", ok...concerns...call your board member in your district to have these concerns addressed in a formal manner???If not then keep it all on this board and drag it back up from time to time...I guess its better for you this way...it'll keep you something to complain about by not fix'n the situations as noted...
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LOL!! Was I that transparent? Dang! How did you figure it out so fast?? LOL!!!
I am laughing so hard right now at your stupidity! I am so not connected with any elected official, gov't office, city or county. I am just an ordinary Taylor County citizen who feels blessed to live in a county where I know by name our elected officials, teachers, and the people I sit next to in church. I don't agree with all those who were elected, but by gosh they were elected by the majority of the voters and I respect that fact! What I do resent is you "haters" getting on here and referring to the place I love to live as Trailer County, and bashing every one from the mayor, our teachers, right on down to the volunteer, unpaid little league coaches. The moderator/owner of this site does our little county an injustice by allowing these obviously biased accusations to be posted on a public site. Things you might want to consider: Recently heard that Ebay is being sued by a "seller" because of a negative comment posted by a "buyer." Hope that no one takes these hateful comments as seriously as Phoebe Prince did, but what if they did? Who would get the blame? The Moderator or the the "anonymous" writer? Hmmmmmm......Lawyer!!
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Now I am laughing. Phoebe Prince...really? First I don't allow such as what happened to that child to happen here, and second, if Ebay is found responsible for another's words, well then it will be another injustice from a frivolous lawsuit. Regardless, I am a supporter of the Bill of Rights and will continue to be, regardless of the threats or intimidation. Believe me, I was threatened and harassed by big "players" in this community for the first year, and TCT is still here. Another thing is I listen to complaints voiced to me via email regarding comments and will take the appropriate action, if warranted...ask DMH, for example. Since the beginning, if any of you feel a comment is inappropriate, then email me and bring it to my attention and I will review it. I can't catch everything, plus what I may not construe as harmful or intentional, may actually be to someone else. That is why everyone's help is welcome. Thanks for participating.
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HA! Glad I made you laugh!! Surely you are thicker skinned than to feel intimidated or threatened by any of the comments that have ever been submitted to you. I can't determine if you're saying "I" was trying to intimidate/threaten you or if the "big players" earlier on were, but that was not MY intention! Certainly you can know who each person is who leaves a comment to this site. The audience can not. Like you, I too support freedom of speech and freedom of the press. I understand that elected officials are going to be targeted regardless of how hard they try or how much good or bad they do and I'm sure they accept that as "part of the territory." BUT when individuals get called out by name: our principals, ass't principals, teachers on special assignment, classroom teachers, coaches and other school board employees (even former employees, enough already!) it tends to cross the line and sounds slanderous. The impression I get is that a very jealous "Rose" wanted to stab a few people in the back with all her "thorns" and she used this public avenue to do it and call them all out by name while she remains anonymous. Like sandpaper, that rubbed me the wrong way. (Guess that is kind of sensitive of me, huh?) If it bothers me, I can only imagine how it makes these individuals, their coworkers, their supervisors & their friends and family feel. I agree that the Ebay lawsuit is "frivolous" one but that doesn't change the fact that it's happening because of a "negative" comment. With all due respect, I don't think you can accurately say that you wouldn't "allow" what happened to Miss Prince to happen here, because you have no way to measure someones sensitivity level. For some people spiteful words are just like water on a duck's back. To other's it might be the straw that broke the camel's back. Who knows?
I don't know what I'm supposed to ask DMH, but if you want my help in policing inappropriate comments in the future, I'll be happy to assit you. You can look forward to my emails
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I was not speaking of you, but the "big players". I know it was not your intention to threaten me, but to voice your opinion. I do agree with you, because like I said in my prior comment, I don't know how specific things affect people and that is why I have always encouraged people to participate and point those things out to me. By now means am I perfect and don't pretend to be, so I will also be looking forward to your emails. In the rules, I don't allow personal names of private citizens to be dropped and I don't allow outright personal attacks on elected or public servants purely out of spite. Rose does seem to be angry, but I thought the points she was trying to make were worth discussing. I can almost bet a huge amount of money that she was not the only school employee who felt that way, and if their anger was being expressed in an open forum, then maybe someone could defend their disapproval and actually end what is obviously alot of 'water cooler talk' at the schools.
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I'm not an angry person, despite what you think. It doesn't matter who gets laid off or whose contracts are not renewed, incompetence seems to only produce more incompetence. The powers that be are going to keep doing things as they have been done for decades. I've resigned myself to believe no matter how much people want change, they are more comfortable with the way things are.
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